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    45 win mag?

    Maybe I'm displaying my youth (not that young but still)

    I found this piece of brass randomly in a batch of my range brass (I try to ONLY pick up my own from the range but from time to time random pieces find their way home with me)

    I've never seen this before and so I had to Google and see what in the world it is/was. This thing seems like a beast! Why didn't it become more of a thing I wonder?

    Basically a longer 45 acp....if 40 s&w was paralleled to 45acp then would be it's 10mm....higher pressure and more umph. Looks formidable.

    Anyone have any experience with it? Don't think I'm interested in finding a niche caliber and firearm at the moment but it is interesting...would be a killer whitetail round in pistol

    Also, strangely enough it seems to be a completely new piece of brass? Random I know but has zero carbon scoring and doesn't look like any chamber marks or die marks on the brass at all....it does seem to have a couple of tarnish marks where I would imagine the anvil of the primer could be but again, doesn't seem to have any marks in the primer pocket to indicate a primer was ever there (looked at it through a jewelers loope) very strange to find it in range brass for sure...does seem to have an ever so slight flare on the case mouth as if it was prepped for loading but nothing else. Any)all of this could be coincidence but it's all a mystery at this point to me.

    Posting here to get your guys musings and get some stories from someone who has seen it before

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    45 win mag made by grizzly firearms in Utah. last time I checked (10 years ago) several year wait & $1800.00??

    just google it. LAR in salt lake, but not sure if they still make them. I have a 50 cal rifle from them. Hope that helps.
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    https://www.google.com/search?q=45+w...hrome&ie=UTF-8
    A bit of info. I haven't heard much (anything) about this cartridge in a few years but do remember quite a bit of discussion several years ago...
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    Beside the LAR Grizzly, it is still chambered in the Wildey gas operated semi-auto that is still in production and the Auto-Mag IV not to be confused with the original Auto-Mag.

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    It was chambered in the Thompson Center Contender, as was my first Contender pistol.

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    GONRA hasa couple .45 WinMags in my semiauto collection:

    .45 WinMag AMT Automag IV pistol, extra magazine,
    10 20 rd. boxes Winchester (FMJ?) ammo.
    2016 Numrich arms spare parts, 377 rds handloads.

    .45 WinMag L.A.R. Grizzly Win Mag, blue finish, compensator,
    extra mag, tool, original barrel bushing.

    These are a "hoot to shoot" - BUT watch it with the AMT's light trigger pull!
    NOT safe for wife & kids - experienced shooters only here....
    Grizzly is finely fitted, like a bank vault.
    Best to not shoot the AMT too much - galling potential.
    Be SURE to use MoS2 grease on these Stainless Steel items...

    Hava 1000 rd.case of New Primed Winchester brass too, from "The Good Olde Days".
    Can make really cool tracers by drilling out back of FMJ .45 ACP bullets and
    pressing in a cutoff .30 cal. orange tip tracer bullet.
    They travel FAR. Snowy day fun ammo...
    Etc. Etc. Etc.....

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    And it had a little brother; the 9mm Win Mag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    And it had a little brother; the 9mm Win Mag.

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    Wild, never seen that one either

    Looks like a 38 super long or a 350 legend short ...

    Bet it would be a good candidate for whitetail too at reasonable distance

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    I have a AMT 45 WM. I my old age I tried to rack the slide about 6 months ago and could not do it. I guess that it is a younger mans gun.

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    I was using 45 Win Mag in my Redhawk 45 acp/Colt. I loaded it as a rimless Schofield with moonclips. Worked excellent for my purposes.
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    I always thought that cartridge would be great in the Ruger bolt action rifles (M 77/44, M77/357) aka M77/45win. Without the rim feeding would be flawless. With the proper twist rate, 250g-350g bullets would hammer deer.
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    Just got a PM yesterday from a new member wanting to sell some 45 Win mag and 41 A&E brass, Maybe He will see this or you can PM me for contact info. if you're in need of either. Gp

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    I have ~149 pieces left over from a .41 Avenger project. 100 are virgin and 49 were necked down then back up to get them back to (almost) factory spec. I figured one day I would need them for something so I wait.

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    No I do t need any including the piece of brass I have just curious about the caliber all together.

    I'm certain there are a hundred calibers I've never seen or heard of but didn't expect I'd see recent autoloaders in such calibers.

    I agree I think heavy loads would smack deer or hog or anything that found it's unfortunate way into your sights with one of those in hand.



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    .45 Win Mag, if I ever have some money I don't know what to do with I will buy a bag of brass to make .45ACP shotshells from. I think it could be used without trimming.

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    I have mused about finding a junker 1910 Winchester and chambering it for 45 Win Mag. But alas, I believe the junkers are $500+ now!

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    An M1 Carbine in 45 Win Mag would be awesome

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    Ruger should do a Mini-45 , I'd bet they would sell truckloads of them.

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    I have a Ruger Blackhawk with the 45 ACP cylinder that has been rechambered for 45 WM; never found any ammo for it. I remember all the hype about it and the 9mm WM years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    I have a Ruger Blackhawk with the 45 ACP cylinder that has been rechambered for 45 WM; never found any ammo for it. I remember all the hype about it and the 9mm WM years ago.
    Wonder why it never took off or did it just not reach a market saturation enough to get and keep a presence?

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