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Thread: Herters Field Position Match and 1911 Ballistic Challenge Oct-Nov

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    Herters Field Position Match and 1911 Ballistic Challenge Oct-Nov

    Come one, come all; it's the time of year for some shooting matches! No standardized targets and no entry fees; we shoot for group size and bragging rights. Get your hunting rigs out and get them sighted in for the season; while your at it, send 5 down range and enter the results for the match. Know your limits with your tools of the trade. Prepare for "Buck Fever" by shooting under match pressure. A little bit of something for everyone here.

    Herters Field Position Match

    If you hunt deer sitting on your butt and shooting off of your legs, then sit on your butt and shoot just like you would in the field. If you stalk slowly and shoot standing, then shoot standing. If you carry shooting sticks, then use them; get the point? Cast boolits of course. (5 rounds)

    Mil surp 50 yards Field Position irons
    Muzzleloader 50 yards Field Position irons
    Rifle 50 yards Field Position scopes or irons
    Rifle 100 yards Field Position scopes or irons
    Handgun 25 yards Field Position irons
    Handgun 50 yards Field Position Scope/Dot or irons
    Handgun 100 yards Field Position Scope/Dot or irons



    1911 Ballistic Challenge, we all know these devices shoot at 7, 25 and 50. Let's test the equipment and see just how good they are for serious work at 100. If you don't have a 1911, feel free to enter this masochistic event with any other service grade or carry type piece. Extra points for style. (7 rounds)

    100 yard standing (stand on your hind two and shoot like a man)
    100 yard benched (think of it as using cover; fence post, truck hoods and even shooting benches with sand bags are acceptable).
    Pictures of large targets, or your tales of woe are welcome additions to this thread; feel free to tell your Ballistic Challenge story.

    Let's try to get them all in the mail by the first week in December. Please report shooting position used along with arm and ammo information.

    Send a PM for mailing address. Bribes are welcome and encouraged.
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    I like it!

    I sold my flintlock because every time I shoot it, I have to take a bath with it to get all that stuff out of it, but I am in for all the other matches inlcuding the 45.

    David

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    100 yards offhand with Grampa's old Colt. I wonder how I can hang a tarp...

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    Slughammer--

    A question, sir.......if you meant HUNTER'S Field Position Match, then OK. But, if you REALLY meant HERTER'S Field Position Match, the nomeclature is a little lacking. To make it a Herter's-style event, you would need to describe it as the World Famous Water-Repellant Mosquito-Proof Unexcelled Hudson Bay Field Position Match. Must preserve the tone elements, you know.

    If you meant HUNTER'S.......well, never mind.
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    I shot the 50 yard milsurp sitting on a stool like I do when hunting. Target is in the car, I will post tomorrow.

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Al View Post
    ...if you REALLY meant HERTER'S Field Position Match, the nomeclature is a little lacking. To make it a Herter's-style event, you would need to describe it as the World Famous Water-Repellant Mosquito-Proof Unexcelled Hudson Bay Field Position Match. Must preserve the tone elements, you know.
    Herters it is. You guys feel free to add as much embellishment as is worthy of the title.

    I'm just trying to be a salesman and draw some interest over to a shooting thread You guys feel free to add as much embellishment as is worthy of the title. Just remember to shoot some targets and send in the results.

    We had a pretty good turn out for the Double Action match. For this match the gun categories are wide open and the shooting positions are of self imposed utility. I'll be sending PM's to anyone who doesn't enter at least one target.


    I was at the range today at about 10:30, the sun was directly over the target backer and the glare was hideous. I decided to do some up close practice with the 1911 and leave the Ballistic Challenge for an afternoon time slot
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    Dang I wish I had time for these matches. I've got a building to get up before it starts in..

    There's always next year isn't there?..

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    You going to get George L., Jacques Jr. and Bertha to present the prizes?

    last July I acquired about a half ton of Herters stuff (including 2 401's and a ton of new brass for them). I love their ad copy. Notbhing quite like it.

    Sam

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    Got 200 pieces of Lee 452-228-1R loaded over Clays. Calculations indicate they will fall a touch over 30 inches at 100 yards. Now I just need to schedule a day off and travel to a range where they'll let me shoot a handgun at 100 yards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    You going to get George L., Jacques Jr. and Bertha to present the prizes?

    last July I acquired about a half ton of Herters stuff (including 2 401's and a ton of new brass for them). I love their ad copy. Notbhing quite like it.

    Sam

    Sam, welcome to the forum. Hopefully you are enjoying your heavy iron and putting it to good use. Even if just setting it up and giving it to folks to get them started, the old presses keep on ticking.

    I went out on Friday and shot a target for the muzzleloader match. 50 yards, seated on my butt, shooting from my legs (typical of the way I hunt deer). Group size is nice, but far from unbeatable. Right now it's anyone's game.
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    Ballistic Challenge

    I made a quick trip to the range today to shoot at 100 yards. I brought with me a brown USPSA/IPSC target and a little ammo. My current 45 acp load is 4.7gr of WST with a 200gr HG 68 clone and a Winchester large pistol primer. While loading 100 of those the other day I decided to load the last 15 with Lyman 452374. I shot at 11:00 am, so I had a bad glare coming in at me. First 7 rounds were the Lyman 452374, I could hear them hitting. After 7 shots I walked downrange to find my shots all on the cardboard. I walked back and then fired 7 shots with the HG 68 clone, all 7 of those shots went into about 10-12". I took some pictures, but have not had a chance to download from the camera. Aiming point was the head on the USPSA target, I'd guess drop was in the 24" range. Today's shooting was from the bench. I am pleased. I may just try again and use brass of all the same head stamp and vintage.
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    Looks like better weather this weekend. OUT comes the 45!

    Does a 10" contender count as a handgun field position? 100 yards creedmore?

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by David R View Post
    Does a 10" contender count as a handgun field position? 100 yards creedmore?

    David
    10" Contender, no problem.

    Creedmore, backpack etc, are fine.... its self limiting to whatever you may find yourself doing during the season.

    (If you sit in tall grass, the creedmore and backpack may be out, but shooting sticks, walking sticks and the side of a tree would all work fine seated in tall grass.)
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    Lyman 452374

    FIrst 7 rounds at 100.

    Load was 4.7 WST and Lyman 452374. Hard blue lube, mixed brass, and Winchester Primer.
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    Balistic Challenge

    I shot a few more targets at 100yards with the 1911. First one was to see if the sights needed adjusting because the last outing had the shots going left. I verified the previous impact area of my goups and then adjusted 2 clicks to the right. 5 more shots showed the adjustment was sending shots into the center of the paper. I then fired a 7 shot string and checked the results, I was quite pleased. The picture on the white paper shows 7 shots into 7.5 inches with 6 of them into 4.5.


    I couldn't stop there, confidence level was high, I decided to knuckle down and shoot a good one. Plus I wanted a stiffer target with nice cut holes instead of those tears. I hung another target and let the 7 shot volley fly. Took my time with sight allignment, but perhaps grip pressure was inconsistent. I was so thrilled by the 5 gouped together and so sad about the 2 out to the left, I didn't bother to meaure.

    Load for both groups was 4.7WST, 200gr HG68 clone, hard blue lube, Winchester primer and a federal case.

    Is anyone else going to try getting in on this? I can't have all the fun by myself.

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    You shot those groups at 100 with a 45?...

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    Yes, 45ACP

    Quote Originally Posted by PatMarlin View Post
    You shot those groups at 100 with a 45?...
    These groups are from the bench, putting the dustcover on my rifle rest. If you don't have a 45, any service grade pistol is acceptable to play with.

    I didn't try any standing at 100 yet. Now that I've got a zero, I can break out the bigger paper and give it a try.
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    I have two targets fired today to send you.

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