I know this is a cast boolit forum, but I know some of you folks have done a lot of experimenting, so here goes. I've got two nearly new .30-30s, one Win 94 and one Marlin 336, and a couple hundred pieces of new brass. What I'd like to do is come up with a load approximating what Hornady is claiming to get from their new plastic tip rounds. I've looked at the Hornady site and found their load data for the 160 grain bullet, but it tops out at 2,000 fps. I'd like to think something better is possible. I'd like to load a 150 grain spitzer to be used in a "one in the chamber and one in the magazine" hunting mode. The new Hornady bullet is a boat tail, so I suppose a 150 grain spitzer boat tail would be the way to go to try to make this work. Any suggestions? Thanks for tolerating my blasphemous thoughts.