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    If you are talking about the .30 Mauser I would use Unique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie b View Post
    If you are talking about the .30 Mauser I would use Unique.
    Oops.
    I will be reloading 9mm.

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    5.0 x WW-231 is listed as a "max" load with the RCBS 115 and 124 grain cast bullets in the 1986-produced RCBS Cast Bullet Manual, No. 1. Out of an abundance of caution, I would start with 4.5 grains of 231, and if reliable function is produced I would leave things at that. If the pistol is balky due to low pressure, step up the loadings until reliable function occurs, and go no higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9.3X62AL View Post
    5.0 x WW-231 is listed as a "max" load with the RCBS 115 and 124 grain cast bullets in the 1986-produced RCBS Cast Bullet Manual, No. 1. Out of an abundance of caution, I would start with 4.5 grains of 231, and if reliable function is produced I would leave things at that. If the pistol is balky due to low pressure, step up the loadings until reliable function occurs, and go no higher.
    Ok. Maybe I will start out at 4.0 grains and work up the load. Good tip.

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    Nice looking Broomhandle.
    Congrats on the purchase!
    I have one of those in a "smoothbore" model.
    Chinese must have never learned to clean guns after corrosive (my guess)
    I kept saying I was going to send it to that outfit in Florida for a new barrel/rechamber, but never got off my duff until they disappeared.
    Now I have a large paperweight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TCLouis View Post
    I have one of those in a "smoothbore" model.
    Chinese must have never learned to clean guns after corrosive (my guess)
    I kept saying I was going to send it to that outfit in Florida for a new barrel/rechamber, but never got off my duff until they disappeared.
    Now I have a large paperweight!
    How sad. Shot out bore? Probably need additional parts too? You need to discard that unsafe chinese knockoff. I would be glad to assist in disposal.
    Imho I would put some $$ in it and have a fun time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkonrai View Post
    Ok. Maybe I will start out at 4.0 grains and work up the load. Good tip.

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    FWIW--I cooked up a "duplicator load" for the 9mm W-W sub-sonic 147 grain JHP load that my old shop still authorizes. It uses 4.1 grains of WW-231 and gives about 950 FPS to jacketed 147 grain HPs, which mimics the carry load pretty closely. 4.0 grains of WW-231 might make everything work with a 115-125 grain bullet, or it might be a little weak for full-function or bolt lock-back. 9mm pistols follow different rules than the 45 ACP or most revolver rounds do.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9.3X62AL View Post
    FWIW--I cooked up a "duplicator load" for the 9mm W-W sub-sonic 147 grain JHP load that my old shop still authorizes. It uses 4.1 grains of WW-231 and gives about 950 FPS to jacketed 147 grain HPs, which mimics the carry load pretty closely. 4.0 grains of WW-231 might make everything work with a 115-125 grain bullet, or it might be a little weak for full-function or bolt lock-back. 9mm pistols follow different rules than the 45 ACP or most revolver rounds do.
    My normal load is 4.0 gr of 231 with a 115 or 124 fmj. 3.5 or so for lead.
    Also have a bunch of titegroup 4.0 gr with 124s fmj. I dont like the tg I feel it runs a bit hotter than the 231.

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    I've got a 1920s commercial model in .30 Mauser, but I'd love to have one in 9mm just so I could shoot it more. I guess one of these days I'll have to get around to loading for 30 Mauser, but it seems like I always have another project waiting that gets in the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCLouis View Post
    I have one of those in a "smoothbore" model.
    Chinese must have never learned to clean guns after corrosive (my guess)
    I kept saying I was going to send it to that outfit in Florida for a new barrel/rechamber, but never got off my duff until they disappeared.
    Now I have a large paperweight!
    Redman's will reline it to 7.62 or rebore to 9mm- your choice. At least they used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmith80 View Post
    I've got a 1920s commercial model in .30 Mauser, but I'd love to have one in 9mm just so I could shoot it more. I guess one of these days I'll have to get around to loading for 30 Mauser, but it seems like I always have another project waiting that gets in the way
    Get a set of dies and a mould for that pistol and start shooting. Reloading .30 Mauser is very easy, not fraught with toil and trouble as claimed by some.
    To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, the trouble with many shooting experts is not that they're ignorant; its just that they know so much that isn't so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    Redman's will reline it to 7.62 or rebore to 9mm- your choice. At least they used to.

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    I had one relined by Randy about 5 years ago. Tip: Call him first to make sure he has the capacity/time to take it in, don't just mail it off. He was glad I called first. He will add that if you send the bolt he will headspace it too. I got mine back in just over a month, IIRC, and the new bore and chamber were very nicely done.

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    Yes Redman's still does or did last I checked last fall or so.
    Trouble is I am a cheapskate and not sure I could get that much enjoyment out of it.
    Barrel is shot/corroded out.
    Would likely go 9mm even though I have a few hundred (I think) rounds of milsurp 7.6?X??.
    Only part that I know of needed is a firiing pin and I have a new one of those lying around "somewhere".
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    As long as it is German milsurp or is Mauser ammo then it would be ok. If it is Russian then might be subgun ammo and should not be used. Just about anything labeled 7.62x25 is suspect. Most Mauser ammo I have seen is labeled 7.63

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check