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    Recovered Powder Coated Samples ....

    I did a little bit of shooting today. My backstop is a series of pallets followed up with a 5' X 7' / 1/2" steel plate at a 45 degree angle. I put some pallets under the plate to slow down the lead so it does not splatter to dust.

    I was pleased to see the amount of powder coat that was still left on the bullets. Please note these were mostly stopped by multiple layers of cheap pine boards.

    The load was 200gr RNFP with 5 grains of Red Dot. ie a mild target load. I used the ASBB Signal Blue from Smoke.

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    looks like some light groove engravings on those boolits. They look pretty good to have went threw the wood. It is nice to recover boolits!
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    I've been wanting to see how these do after striking whatever kind of target I can find.

    I was shooting some .38 spl out of a Rossi model 92 at some steel; the rules are lead boolits in this particular competition, mostly so we don't get splashback from the steel plates.

    If the boolits work correctly off the steel, the targets should direct that splash downward. I shot a few coated w/ HF red, and we could find no evidence of splash--no dust puffs below the targets, and no pieces w/ red powdercoat on them.

    Finally we did a target that had been freshly painted and we could see the striations in the paint from the splash; finally we found a dime-sized piece of flat lead, to which was still affixed the powdercoat. So mostly the boolit performed as per requirements, but the PC was clearly able to stand up to the abuse and hold onto the lead.

    I've been baking some 9mm boolits tonite using the same Signal Blue as you're using above. Glad to see it can hold up even better than I'd have hoped.

    PS: I'm wondering what the reaction would be of anyone who would mine a backstop at a range and discover all sorts of rainbow colors of boolits.

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    I shot some of my "hotter" .45acp loads into a hard wood stump after splitting the log I couldn't believe. How much of the blue PC from smoke was still on the boolit!

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    Fill a Tupperware tub to the top with rubber mulch from your local garden nursery center and shoot into it, it will stop magnum rifle rounds in the first 14". Dig em out and collect to your hearts content. Tip: don't powder coat the same color as your rubber mulch color.
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    These 9mm and 45's were caught in bullet test tube soft wax media. That's HF red that I tumble coated.

    I'd like to try some of smokes powder if I could figure out how to order it. I got some Harley orange and wet black from powder by the pound. It works really well in my HF ESPC gun, not so good in tumble lube. I haven't recovered any of the PBTP coated yet. Now that summer is here, I can get to the range more. More reports to follow.
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    I have found some of my coated boolits. The coating is mostly still there exept where scraped off by where it landed or entered the wood.

    PC is one tough cookie! I can smash a 45 300 gn slug into a cube with ALL the powder still in tact. Try it on any of your slugs .............and be amazed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bangerjim View Post
    I have found some of my coated boolits. The coating is mostly still there exept where scraped off by where it landed or entered the wood.

    PC is one tough cookie! I can smash a 45 300 gn slug into a cube with ALL the powder still in tact. Try it on any of your slugs .............and be amazed.

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    I did the smash test, was equally amazed.

    What I don't get it this: I've carried a few dummy rounds in my pocket for the last week or so. PC'd boolits, no powder, no primer, seated and crimped.

    The edge at the top of the truncated cone has worn through to the underlying lead. That suggests to me that PC (at least that I use--this particular powder is HF red) is less abrasion resistant than it is capable of sticking to the boolit and handling deformation.

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    I found the same thing with my old Klass Kote epoxy coated bullets. Since the HF powders are epoxy based it makes me wonder if the polyester based powders are superior in this respect. Once the epoxy age cures I bet it gets a little brittle. Polyester may or may not do the same.
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    I would think the rattling around and constant movement in a pocket is much worse than that one time travel down your barrel. The sharper edges are exposed to every little ding and bang and will erode much faster than the fat parts.

    Thing is, you cannot see the LEAD that would come off (all the way around) with just grease-coated boolits, contaminating your pocket, hand, and contents with raw lead!

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    These passed thru a 1/2" thick rubber conveyor belt and into railroad ties. Smokes Signal Blue as well.

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    Have no idea why it came out green but that's Harbor Freight red. And oak grips.


    They're sharing the same projectile both coated with Harbor Freight red. The 45 ACP is doing about 750 fps maybe a little more. The 45 colt in my Rossi 92 is doing probably right around 1200 and this is a smokeless powder load. First time trying smokeless in it. 20 gr of imr 4227. I think I maybe using to light a Boolit. There coming out at 208gr on average. I'm getting a very dirty burn and a little bit of gas in the face every once in awhile.
    By the way I recovered these by filling a disposable container filled with damp dirt.
    My dads a well driller and has a ton of them around. I think I just figured out a cheap easy way to recover my Boolits
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    I just found flat as can be pieces of .38 or .45, some round and like 1+ with some red on it. Hit at 25 yds with 550 steel haha. 4 or 5 pieces still didn't weigh 1 boolet weight.

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    Once upon a time...



    That was a Mihec 452-200 grain penta hollow point.
    And then there was the Mihec 359-125 penta hollow point that was a little more explosive. Both were shot into water jugs.

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    40 S&W Shoot Into Dry Paper

    Hello All

    The pictures are of some 40 S&W and 38 Special shoot into a stack of paper that was dry.

    The bullets were powder coated and also included plain base gas checks made from Cola Can material on the 40 S&W bullets.

    Some of the gas checks were still attached to the base of the recovered 40 S&W bullets.

    The powder coat was a white color.

    The 38 Special did have the Cola Can Gas Checks.

    The stack of bound paper was at 15 feet when the shots were fired.

    The lead was a 92-6-2 alloy, cast in Magma molds with a Master Caster machine.
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    NOE 502 430 grain, but came out to 420 grains with the hollow point. 50 yards into a dirt berm. Had to wait a few weeks before they worked themselves out from being buried so deep. Shed a bunch of weight. Gas checks, and powder coat seems unfazed.

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    Mihec 359-125gr in a 9mm. Subsonic out of a 10.5" AR 1039fps. 7 yards into 3 water jugs. Popped first one, through the second, and punctured the third. Seems like it might work for a rabbit. Quiet with suppressor and red dot. Not very accurate due to consistency of getting a good drop of red dot that low. Might have to hand charge these to see if they are any good. These were round hollow point pins. May try the penta to see if I can keep them together subsonic this time. Does not appear to have any powder coat left on base. Hopefully I do not see green in the barrel when I clean.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check