My big Lyman 2-cavs seem to prefer ladle pours, Lee 6-cav's and other 5-6 cavs seem to prefer bottom pour. Smaller 2-cavs seem to do OK with bottom pour.
My big Lyman 2-cavs seem to prefer ladle pours, Lee 6-cav's and other 5-6 cavs seem to prefer bottom pour. Smaller 2-cavs seem to do OK with bottom pour.
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I do both depending on what I need and the boolit/mould and its application.
Generally speaking anything rifle over 8mm gets ladled as do boolits of any calibre for long range high velocity shooting. I use Lyman and Rowell's
Pistol calibre and low velocity rifle where volume is important then I bottom pour from a couple of RCBS Pro Melts.
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Bottom pour for me.. I use the Lee six cavity molds mostly and can drop bullets very fast with the bottom pour.
Jim
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Bottom pour here, too. Had to Lee-ment my 6-cavity molds but that doesn't take long compared to how much better they are when done
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I've used both. It all depends. I prefer to ladle, as I feel I have greater control. but with big boolits, I used my lee bottom pour. I guess it all depends on what you like and what you are casting. Cheers!
I use a Lyman bottom pour ladle. So far no issues with it. Have not decided I want to buy a bottom pour furnace yet or not. Seems the ladle is doing just fine!
I started with ladles around 40 years ago, and that's still my preferred method - even with a 4-cavity Lyman 457125. I have given bottom-pour several opportunities to sway me, but I have returned to my ladles every time.
Jim
I have always gotten better bullets with a ladle, especially on the bigger bullets.
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I do both depending on what I am casting.
For my 45-70 I have a Lyman SC 457122 HP with the Pin heater and a single cavity a bottom pour pot doen't make much sense and I have a 20 Lb Lyman dipper pot for that and other old style HP molds.
For my auto pistols I run two Lee 6 cav's per caliber using a pair of bottom pour pots rigged one over the other, the top one being a feeder pot. This works very well when I need a 1000 or so 9mm or 45 acp boolits.
It's as simple as what you need for the job at hand so I do both and enjoy casting both ways equally as well.
Bottom pour only.
I use a ladle for making ingots during smelts of raw materials. I have zero desire to even try one for the actual casting. One more item added to the cycle of picking up and putting back down. The spigot handle on a bottom pour doesn't move. I like that.
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I use a Lee production pot IV, I find it an efficient way to handle molten lead. I also think it is a safer way, as the lead is transferred straight into the mould and it eliminates any possible spillages from a ladle.
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Hmmm. What about when the bottom-pour pot dumps 20 pounds of lead on the bench?
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I have been ladle pouring since I started about 15 years ago. Yes, I routinely pour my 462420 Group buy six cavity mold with my Lyman ladle. You need to realize that steel and iron float on molten lead so anything on the bottom of the pot cable controlled from the top won't work.
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My last casting before this afternoon was 40 years ago. So I guess you could consider me a newbie. I originally used a bottom pour electric pot (still have it and it still works) but today used a propane burner, cast iron pot and ladle to cast RCBS 45-255-SWC bullets and a few RCBS 500 grain BPS bullets for a 45/70. I was satisfied with the result and will do even better next time. The RCBS mould blocks are large and need to be hot to get a good bullet base. The ladle poured a larger flow than my old pot which helped keep them hot, especially for the 500 grain cavity. It was fun and a good learning experience.
I really like to use a ladle, but have had to switch over to a bottom pour. I have Parkinsons an it's getting harder to use the ladle. I have two ladles, one is a RCBS, but am unable to control the pour with it. I bought a gravy ladle which has a pour lip. For some reason that is easier for me to control kind of. I just do my BP pours with a ladle now. I do have the RCBS bottom pour with a PID that I got for it. It seems to do a really good job but it's not as much fun as using the ladle. I haven't been at this very long, don't have the experience that a lot of ya'll do.
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I remember the good old days when this was the hottest argued topic on here.
I use a ladle...just the way I started and have seen no reason to change.
I have 2 Lee 4-20 bottom pours and a 10# standard.
I bottom pour 90% and use the tiny one for the RCBS ladle or rare occasions.
You cannot beat bottom pours! And they REALLY pressure cast well....with 18# of molten lead pushing down on your little cavity!
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