Yes, what Musky said. 38-55. A cast boolit dream. And a challenge in a Marlin CB.
Yes, what Musky said. 38-55. A cast boolit dream. And a challenge in a Marlin CB.
Very fond of the 44/40 and use it a lot. Picked up a 375Win recently, leaning towards that now.
UPDATE:
I know it is not an antique cartridge, but I load it to 38/55 levels. I have never seen a 38/55 for sale in Australia that wasn't a shiny commemorative at too many dollars.
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I always wanted an '86 in .50 caliber, but with the collector's price they bring the rifle is worth more than my hide. Last year I did manage to pick up a 45-70 '86 that had been refinished and reblued. So far I've only killed deer with it, but a '92 in 32-20 will kill deer. It's not enough to have a big rifle. I want to need it. If my health holds, I'm going to get back into country where I need the big rifle. Nothing I have ever used works as well for fast and close work as the '86.
For now of the ones I have used enough to have an opinion of my favorite is the 40-82 with the 40-65 really about the same, but the .33, 38-56, and the 38-70 work pretty well too. One that surprised me is the '95 in 35 Winchester with the 260 grain RCBS cast boolit. For five shots nothing is faster or points better than the '95. Reloading is a little awkward until you get used to it, and that action with the lever opened with everything hanging out reminds me of an aging lady of the evening with her garters showing, but aesthetics aside when things get ugly I could do worse than have a '95 in my hands.
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45/90. Have an original 1886 that's been in the family since new.
For me, it's my old '76, 45/75, round barrel, sg buttplate, bore so wore out you think the rifling is sketched in with a pencil. But, 5 shot 2-1/2" groups at 100 yards, straight black 3f loads. No foulers, no mouth to mouth recessitation (blowing to soften fowling), just line up the barrel sights and squeeze the trigger. I've shot a mule deer, a speed goat, 3 elk and a full curl bighorn ram with it. Don't hunt with it much any more because it's so wet where I currently live I don't like dragging old guns with no finish out in the woods to get soaking wet. Never had a shot go where I didn't aim. A friend used to say," those old time fellers were well armed". Who ever packed that '76 around sure enough was well armed.
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I guess it would have to be the 25-20 wcf. It is the only lever I have ever owned. Old model 1894. Made in 1896.
45-70 in the Winchester 1886. Just fun to shoot!
Was always a fan of the 30-30 Win, levers bolts and single shots (TC Contender). A very versatile ctg that will take on (just about) every animal in North America-with big bears in the grizzly nature you might be levering for your life. My 94 gets out atleast once every year whether or not I'm carrying a deer, elk or moose tag I have that much confidence in this cartridge! I'm down to only one 30-30, a 1977 Win Model 94 with Williams FP sight. Drives tacks at 100yds with a 170gr Hornady FN and LeverEvolution, And Shoots just as well with a cast Lee 170 and IMR 3031.
Having said all that a very very close runner up is my Model 94 Legacy in 45 Colt. I shot this with Hdy XTP's and H110 and this load will do what the above will do as long as you limit your range to 100yds & under. It packs a wallop and SMACKS the berm with authority. A soon as I get a good load with a 255gr cast SWC this lever will be accompanying me next fall.
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I like my 1876 .45-60WCF. This on is a carbine with a 20 inch tube and a full length forearm that covers the magazine tube. My other lever gun is a 1873 short rifle in .44WCF. I use that one in CAS matches and the 1876 will be used in side matches. both are made by A. Uberti and are very accurate using Goex's Pinacle BP Sub.
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.348 gets a nod; lots of oomph on the receiving end.
45-70, hands down.
Forgot to say why. For 140 years, this cartridge has met and exceeded the standards originally set for it. It has defended countries, defended families, fed families, protected livestock and won shooting matches.
This 140 year old cartridge is still widely used and available today.
You can load it light. You can load it hot (in the right firearm). And, it loves black powder. Loaded right, it will drop any critter on the North American continent.
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I am a BIG fan of the Winchester 1886 in ANY calibre. However, no one has mentioned .50-70 Government. LOTS of fun to shoot in a Sharps Cartridge Conversion carbine.
I pretty much got my original 1873 by accident. Someone's uncle was moving to FL, and he was selling a few guns. Didn't really need anything, but how can you not take a look when someone is selling guns?
Turns out one was the Winchester in .38-40, a cartridge I knew nothing about. Didn't really know anything about the 1873 either, but the price was so inexpensive, I said what the heck.
Once I realized what I had, I wanted to shoot it, but almost passed out when I saw what a box of cartridges was going for, over $75 at the time. Found a commercial reloader, bought a few boxes, and then started loading my own. Not difficult at all if you take your time.
The only old gun I'd had was a .45-70 Trapdoor Springfield carbine. That gun beat me up so bad, I sold it. I love the light recoil and accuracy of the .38-40, so this is definitely my favorite.
45-70, even tho my rifle is anything but an antique. 30-30 is a close second even tho I mistakenly consider it a modern cartridge. 45 Colt comes to mind as well even tho my late friend JT would argue that it's not truly a correct "antique" levergun cartridge. Someday maybe I'll have leverguns in 32-20 and 38-40 and they'll be my new favorite.
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.38-55 since it is the only lever gun I have and also because it was my Dad's.
Not really a true antique, but I am enamored with my model 71 and the .348. The rifle is slicker that the proverbial reptile nasal mucus, and the Cartridge is a potent thing. I have 3 molds for it, the 200 grain RCBS, a 220 grain Accurate mold. and the Lyman 358-429. You may ask, 358-429? Isn't that a might large? it sizes easily to .350 and shoots great over 13 grains of Red Dot. At 50 yards, it more than holds its own with the heavier boolits, accuracy-wise. And for killing paper, the lighter charge is excellent. For deer, I load the RCBS or Accurate boolits over a stiff charge of WW-760. So far, the deer are ahead of me on points, since they seem to disappear whenever my 71 and I take the field.
I also like the 250 Savage. But not for boolits.
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One of the "funnest" to shoot for me is my Savage 1899-H takedown in 22 Savage High Power. It's sure not the most versatile, the most powerful, the most accurate or the most - just about anything you name. But when you take it to the range, it'll sure get a lot of attention. It's a neat little cartridge and, of the 11 different calibers I've got in leverguns, it's my favorite. The fellow in the Savage ad shown with a tiger taken with the 22 HP is NOT me, by the way.
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |