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    Air rifle users

    I noticed the price of lead pellets have jumped 25% in the last month. If you use air guns and don't have a good stock of pellets you may want to stock up before they go up any more. The price and demand for lead is driving the cost up on lead pellets. Wal-mart has Crossman 500 count HP hunting pellets in .22 for 9.97 they also have .177 in 500 count for around 8 dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamp Man View Post
    I noticed the price of lead pellets have jumped 25% in the last month. If you use air guns and don't have a good stock of pellets you may want to stock up before they go up any more. The price and demand for lead is driving the cost up on lead pellets. Wal-mart has Crossman 500 count HP hunting pellets in .22 for 9.97 they also have .177 in 500 count for around 8 dollars.
    That's not bad. I recently ordered two 1250 count boxes of Crosman .177 wadcutters through my Mom & Pop dealer, $10/box. That added to the three 250 count boxes I bought from the hardware store gives me a bit over 3K. If I shoot a coupla' dozen sittin' on the front steps in the afternoons, I'll be shootin' for awhile.

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    If only I had a 180 RB mould maybe its time for a shot maker . My 177 Beeman is over bore a steel bb just drops through rattling all the way down. Most of the pellets I've used seem to grip the rifles fine. I dont shoot it too much so the 2k from 05' ought to hold me a while more.
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    I guess the frenzy is spilling into airguns, after they can't find .22's.
    I would be interested in a big-bore, say .45-.50 or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harter66 View Post
    If only I had a 180 RB mould maybe its time for a shot maker . My 177 Beeman is over bore a steel bb just drops through rattling all the way down. Most of the pellets I've used seem to grip the rifles fine. I dont shoot it too much so the 2k from 05' ought to hold me a while more.
    If I'm not mistaken, that's by design. BBs being steel, if the bore diameter was smaller than the BB, the BB would jam in the riflings.

    I have a friend that is a big time air rifle nut. He's all up in it. When I told him I bought a .177 break barrel, he told me "Rule number one: NEVER shoot BBs through your pellet rifle!! They'll bounce down the barrel and ruin the riflings."

    I dunno, I'm not an air rifle expert. It makes sense, though, and sounds like good advice. I look at it like this: I wouldn't shoot a sloppy fit steel ball through one of my centerfire rifles.

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    the price of lead has been falling for a while now.
    it's hanging out around 92 cents.

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    Why not just get a air rifle mold for your caliber? ? ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, that's by design. BBs being steel, if the bore diameter was smaller than the BB, the BB would jam in the riflings.

    I have a friend that is a big time air rifle nut. He's all up in it. When I told him I bought a .177 break barrel, he told me "Rule number one: NEVER shoot BBs through your pellet rifle!! They'll bounce down the barrel and ruin the riflings."

    I dunno, I'm not an air rifle expert. It makes sense, though, and sounds like good advice. I look at it like this: I wouldn't shoot a sloppy fit steel ball through one of my centerfire rifles.
    Bingo. A pellet acts like a slug when fired,the skirt is tight in the bore to make a air seal once fired it folds in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Flinchbaugh View Post
    Why not just get a air rifle mold for your caliber? ? ?
    I always felt it would be possible for some company to make an affordable, lead wire fed swager to knock them out quickly. Should easily be able to do it.
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    I have a life time stock of pellets I bought years back. I know lots of guys that use air guns so when I'm out I check for deals to pass along to them and just noticed the price hike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallenba View Post
    I always felt it would be possible for some company to make an affordable, lead wire fed swager to knock them out quickly. Should easily be able to do it.
    I've seen some before but it was years ago old guy I knew had a few hand press pellet presses. The wire was pushed in then pressed and a single pellet was made.

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    Guys, this is pretty interesting. Could zinc be used for pellets?

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    Assuming the skirt of the pellet is groove diameter, I would wonder if a break barrel design would generate enough pressure to drive a zinc pellet down the barrel. I know a good way to find out, though, right?

    I'd like to have a small block aluminum mold about the size of a Lee mold with two to four cavities that would cast a .178 RB. With an RB, there ain't no front or back and there's no skirt to worry about mashing. Snug the ball in the chamber and go.

    I bet I could lube 178 RBs with my Graphlox lube and get 'em to zip along pretty good! And no more lead than what it would take to cast a .178 RB, you could make a blue million of 'em with a pound.

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    BB's in a break barrel air rifle will not create enough resistance and may cause a detonation, possibly damaging the rifle.
    As for a pellet mold or swager, would only be nice if the resultant pellet was accurate enough in the air gun to be useful. Air guns can be very picky on what particular pellet style, brand, or weight they like. No guarantee the rifle will like the pellet until you bought the mold and made the pellets. Not to mention that if you have multiple air guns, some might like the pellet and other may not!
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    Both my .177 pellet guns have barrels to tight to fit steel BB which are .18 there are guns made to shoot both.

    As far as casting .177 pellets i am sure a hammer driven pound swaging die would be better and tin (solid lead free solder) can be used to make pellets if lead gets banned.
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    A few years we had a custom .177 mold buy. I have one. after some testing by several members it was found if loaded backwards with the point forming an extreme boat tail and a metplate front they were more accurate. I cast them out of pure lead, they are slower than pellets but the extra makes up for it. I have had them go completely through a squirrel.
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    A lead RB made of soft lead fitted snug enough should make a air seal. They are making lead free pellets I think some of them are made with zinc you check the Gamo lead free pellets to find out what their made of.

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    Good thing I cleaned Wally World out of them two weeks ago, ended up with five 300 count Daisy "Dial a pellet" packs to go with my stash. Out the door at a little over 12 clams.

    Plenty of selection left, just not the pellet packs. I'll save the flat points for tree rats and let the kids puch holes with the rest.
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