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    Smile best 9mm bullet

    I have two CZ 75 9mm pistols and would like to start casting for them and was thinking of getting the Lee 356-120-TC.
    Can anyone tell me what size this bullet drops at using 50/50 lead and wheel weights with a splash of tin. I want to size them to .357 if possible.
    Thanks for input.
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    I think if I remember correctly mine drop right at .360 with 50/50 WW
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    My choice is a 147 gr RN for more surface area on the driving bands to grip the rifling.

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    That has become my favorite bullet for the 9mm. It performs extremely well in my CZ75 and numerous other 9mm handguns and subguns. I use it over 4 gr Bullseye BTW. I size them wih a .358 sizer that just barely touches the bullets in a spot or two. My .357 H die just touches most of the bullet. I have a 6 cavity mould and use any reasonable alloy available from range lead + tin to WWs + 2% tin.

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    Great boolit. Mine's dropping .357-8 IIRC and I'm sizing .356

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    From my WW+tin alloy, mine drop at .357-.358 which I size to .356 for my .355 barrels in 9MM and 38 Super. Bullet does very well in my guns.
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    Thanks guys for your replys, very much appreciated.
    My CZ's bores run .356- and my 38 Super Elite Match bore is .356+, so I was thinking of sizing to .357 for both guns and try it.
    I plan on tumble lubing also, I have had good luck with the TL bullets from Lee for my .357 mag and 45 ACP. I am using the 45/45/10 lube.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks, Floydster

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    Don't get the TL bullet but rather the standard lube grove bullet.

    Plus for the TC bullet most die set expander plugs do not reach deep enough into the case. Lyman M die gets close. 9x19mm cases are strong enough to swag your bullets down. Which I suspect may be why some people have bad luck with the thin banded TL bullets.
    I’m assuming the Lee TC bullet seats to about the same depth as the Saeco #377 that I have.

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    i have 2 -38 supers with match barrels and 3- 9mms i use bullets sized to 0.357 for all .
    I have found that the TC bullet is more accurate than the RN unless you go with a heavy RN
    I have the saeco #384 -122g rn , #377- 122 gr tc and the #929 -145 gr swc, in all of my pistols the #929 is the most accurate with the #377 second and the #384 last.

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    Great design, the 356-120 TC, I shoot it at .357 or .358 in all my 9mms, works great.

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    My CZ likes the Lee 358-125-RF sized to 358. It keyholed on five other types of boolits, including the two TC versions.

    Has to be seated deep though with a reduced powder charge. Maximum OAL that will chamber is 1.01.

    The CZ is unique, having a very tight, short leade. It was hell trying to find the right mold.

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    chris, I know the CZ's have very short tight leads, however I never experienced keyholing using other cast bullets, such as MBC 124 gr. RN.

    I was looking at the 358-125-RF, I really like the design of the bullet, I'm kind of at a standstill on which one to try now.

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    That 125-RF is an absolute great boolit. It is my primary 38SPC boolit as well as a very good 9mm boolit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MtGun44 View Post
    Great design, the 356-120 TC, I shoot it at .357 or .358 in all my 9mms, works great.

    Bill
    If the mold is 356, How do you size them to .357 or .358. I guess the mold drop them larger and you size them smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glowe View Post
    If the mold is 356, How do you size them to .357 or .358. I guess the mold drop them larger and you size them smaller.
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    How about the 356402? Lyman's version of the 356-120 TC.
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    Never tried 356402. 356-120-TC worked extremely well in 2 cav, so I bought a
    6 cav.

    Love it, and yes - it drops about .359 diam with wwt alloy for me, size to .357 or .358.

    Highly recommend this one for 9mm.

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    I (and my CZ) like the Mihec 125-358, and the Mihec 380 group buy. The 125 has a much better tapered nose for the CZ so I didn't have to struggle with OAL. The ~90gr 380 boolit is just a ton of fun to shoot, and uses less lead!

    I had some difficulty with the lee TL356-124-2R OAL for what is worth (settled around 1.095 I think?)

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    I have been seating the lee 356-124 TL to 1.1 and not getting very good accuracy at all so i think ill reduce charge a little and try 1.095. Im not using a CZ though. Just trying to find a decent plinking load for subcompacts. Kel tecs and such. I know not to expect MOA but id like to be able to roll cans at

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    I have a Lee mold for a 125 gr. RNFP bullet. I use this bullet in 9mm, .38 Special and .357 Magnum. I've used regular lube (Canauba Red) or 45-45-10, and I just size it according to which gun I am going to shoot it in...
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