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    Is this one of those things like .45 Long Colt?...

    ...because after all the experts chimed in on not having the "Long" part, it was found out there was a practical reason for the "Long" part.

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    Actually, government entities describe what we do as "secondary smelting",

    as per this blurb:

    Secondary lead smelting is a technology used to reclaim lead from waste
    and this one:

    The reclamation of lead from lead containing materials is based on existing lead smelting procedures and basic pyrometallurgy
    So technically, we are not PRIMARY smelters, but are considered SECONDARY smelters...if you want to believe the government.

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    So technically, we are not PRIMARY smelters, but are considered SECONDARY smelters...if you want to believe the government.
    Usually, I tend NOT to. But in this case, it sounds totally legit! I'll buy it! Secondary Smelting it is...
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    Only words!
    Like mold and mould, both mean exactly the same thing.
    Some words mean many things depending on how you say them and your inflection. But inflection is also wrong.
    We need to speak Spanish that takes 10 words for 1 so you need to speak VERY fast!
    I need to go smelt some lead, excuse me. I have to get out of here!

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    Is it morally reprehensible that I refer to the last dregs of dross going back in the pot for the last time as "shake?"

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    I saw this in a cartoon once. I'm pretty sure I can pull it off...

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    [QUOTE=44man;1669407]Only words!
    Like mold and mould, both mean exactly the same thing.


    Not if you are talking about Mold, Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlippShodd View Post
    Is it morally reprehensible that I refer to the last dregs of dross going back in the pot for the last time as "shake?"

    mike
    The "Shake" I hear about, would probably be a better flux.
    It would make the neighbors "Happy" also.

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    I am going to "smelt", whether anyone likes it of not. I apologize if I seem rude.

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    speaking of fish. You guys went for this one hook,line and sinker. The 'ol rev got you good LOL

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    Talking Rendering

    Perhaps some insight.

    Using the term "Smelting" is come by easy enough, except that in order to Smelt you need to use a Smelter/ Smelting Furnace.
    A Smelter/ Smelting Furnace is used to Smelt (Smelting) the Lead Ore into a refined product.
    This is the case with all Metal Ores.

    The Lead produced from the above procedure would be poured into Ingots or Pigs.

    We as casters melting down the scrap product, or even the Pigs into manageable ingots is known as Rendering.
    Making an Alloy from said product is Rendering Alloy. We're also Rendering said product into Ingots for use in the Melting Pot, or Casting Furnace.

    You may be wondering why we use the term Casting instead of Rendering into boolits.
    As with other types of Metal the ingots/pigs are Melted down and used to make another product, thus a third step in the Metals evolution.
    Lastly, the Dreaded Casting Rejects are most affectionately known as Remelting.

    Step #1 Smelting
    Step #2 Rendering
    Step # 3 Casting

    Hope this sheds a bit of light on the subject.

    Jeff

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    Smelting uses heat and a chemical reducing agent to decompose the ore, driving off other elements as gasses or slag and leaving just the metal behind. The reducing agent is commonly a source of carbon such as coke, or in earlier times charcoal.
    Isn't this us???

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    I have used charcoal in the past to reduce (smelt) lead oxide from OLD batteries back into lead. It really was not worth the effort but I did get nice soft lead from it.
    When I think back on all the **** I learned in high school it's a wonder I can think at all ! And then my lack of education hasn't hurt me none I can read the writing on the wall.

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    Smelting is a well known contraction of the phrase "it's melting". Kinda like how 'tis really means "it is".



    BTW my peeve is "hot water heater." Why would you need to heat hot water?
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    Verbatim from Merriam Webster:

    2- smelt, verb

    Definition of SMELT

    transitive verb

    1: to melt or fuse (as ore) often with an accompanying chemical change usually to separate the metal.

    2: refine, reduce

    See smelt defined for English-language learners »

    Origin of SMELT

    Dutch or Low German smelten; akin to Old High German smelzan to melt, Old English meltan— more at melt
    First Known Use: 1543

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    Smelt-Melt-render, is all just an opinion and everybody has one. That's not the only thing shared by all of us, and they all smelt awful.
    Now irregardless of your opinion, I am gonna SMELT my lead, and I'll not tell you what to do with yours, but I do have an opinion about it.

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    I worked in an iron foundry for 28 years and we
    never smelted one ounce of iron, we melted it.
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