I order from Graf and Sons when I can.
Mid-South for me. I will never use Midway for anything but product info. I'm a little biased though, being able to pick up an order is the winner.
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Midway website is slow.
Midway is fast to process and ship, if you need it fast.
Graf prices lately(past year) are higher than the others.
Midsouth, & Graf are slow to process and ship. usually doesn't leave their location 7 days, or more.
Reloading components...Powder Valley is hard to beat.
Bottom Line...Shop around & compare prices.
Jon
Col 2:13-17
I think they are getting it up to speed. I was there a bit ago and it was one of the fastest sites I've been on. Much better than last week.
Urny
Elko County, the old heart of Nevada
I confess I have never ordered anything from Graf, but I'm a little skeptical on your claim for Mid-South. I know for a fact that they ship the next day after an order is pulled. Now if you ordered something that was out of stock then yes it may take that long. But it's up to the buyer to pay attention to what they are ordering not the supplier. Mid-South's web site is pretty easy to use and it will tell you in either green or red what their stock is on any given item, but it's not "instant." Phoned in orders are generated PDQ and it's saved me from my own mistakes a time or two just to have the person on the other end of the line read each item back to me. Cutomer Service earns loyalty and Mid-South has mine all the way.
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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell
These are the times that try men's souls.
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Being instate with Midway, I get the pleasure of paying sales tax. Big deal.We all have to pay it when buying instate. What peeves me is Larry charging sales tax on shipping. I only use them for comparison now.:takinWiz:
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I use MW and others too. You need to shop around. Like one of the posters here says, "Cheap, fast, good -- Pick two"
I cannot believe anyone is more expensive than Brownell's - yet I buy from them too when needed.
MW site is working fine and I am running IE.
Midway has been my first "go to" for the last several years but a few policies they have are driving me to other sources. Poor customer service---On one of my past orders included a gunmakers file set. They had two sets, one set was a few $ cheaper and had a couple less files. I ordered and paid for the more expensive set. They shipped the cheaper set. I called and expected them to happily just send me the missing files. Nooooo, I was asked to return the first set on my dime and they would send the better set. It was less hassle and expense to just keep the cheaper set.
I too resent their ripoff shipping charges. If part of your order is backordered you pay additional shipping when item is sent. Even if the item is a small item that could ship for couple of bucks they charge their minimum charge.
But the thing that gripes me the most is the discounts they offer. The offer isn't good on "sale" items. So a lot of the items I may want have a sale price so I end up buying things I don't really need to get to the threshold to use the discount.
The new website is just like the old one for me, very slow at high usage times on DSL and Google Chrome.
I have to say that I love Midwayusa. I order from them all the time because it's a one stop shop and I can depend on them to ship what I order in an extremely timely fashion. I am sure that they have trouble with orders that dont go as planned but I have never had a single issue with them.
Furthermore, Midwayusa has provided more funding to the NRA than any other source via there NRA Roundup program. I always round up a couple of $$$.
As to the original problem, They must have been having site issues last night because I was trying to make another order and couldn't navigate the site at all. Most site I frequent have trouble from time to time including this one. I successfully placed my order this morning.
Precision in the wrong place is only a placebo.
PK,
I always order online...and ONLY what's in stock. I usually get my order 2 weeks+ after I place the order. UPS ground is usually 5 days to CA...So why the exta time, if next day shipping? Graf is just as slow if not slower. If I order from Midway on Sunday it's here Thursday or Friday(UPS Ground). Yes, they have a minimum order amount.
I still buy from ALL vendors, just depends on who has it, how much and when I need it. I have no loyalties, just like a cheap XXXXX.
Col 2:13-17
I often get a 40 hr transit time from MW to Akron, OH. I usually order around 10 PM Eastern time on Mon-Wed and it ships same night. That's with UPS Basic.
Not had orders messed up. You can set things up to let you know when something comes in stock or goes on sale too. Nice feature.
Oh yeah, now I remember...
I broke the extractor in my 1911A1. I ordered one from Midway and they mailed it in an envelope, 1st class mail.
I thought that was really odd. And I believe I paid $4.95 S&H.
I generally shop online, and get as far as the page where the shipping charges come in. That is often where I will close a page without ordering.
I know how to ship, I know the USPS will provide free priority mail supplies. So it burns my butt like a 4 foot flame to bite the boolit on some of these shipping charges.
I don't want to buy the crew lunch for some $12 item.
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I hear what you are saying, I realy do, but the way I look at it is that its a service that is worth the cost.I know how to ship, I know the USPS will provide free priority mail supplies. So it burns my butt like a 4 foot flame to bite the boolit on some of these shipping charges.
I don't want to buy the crew lunch for some $12 item.
You have two other options, find another retailer who might have what you want, but probably not, and if they dont charge you the shipping then they dont get in any big hurry to get it on the truck either.
The other option is to find a local retailer "who probably doesn't have the selection that midwayusa has". Now just figure up the cost of driving to the store, what your time is worth standing their scratching your head or trying to get help finding your item, or even arguing with the guy behind the counter about what you realy need for your setup, or listening to him rattle on about a two week delivery on custom products. etc. etc. And then you have all that pesky sales tax to deal with, and then the drive home........
When you get right down to it, I got tired of playing the games! When I finally decide on a product, I want to be able to find exactly what I want for a fair price, and I want to be running my grubby paws over it in 3 business days or less.
If there is a business out there that does a better job of providing those services, I'm all ears, but right now, midwayusa has changed everything about the way I have had to do business with sporting goods.
Furthermore, the NRA roundup has earned a lot of respect from me as well as loyalty. There are a lot of companies out there who are only interested in making a buck and the second amendment can go hang.
Also, I have enjoyed watching Larry Potterfields videos on gunsmithing and the tools he sells to get the jobs done.
I am willing to look at other companies products but Midway has done everything right and they have been doing it for a long time. They are a hard act to follow and the competition looks pretty bleak to tell you the truth.
Please correct me if I am missing something here?
Precision in the wrong place is only a placebo.
I haven't found it to be slow.
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I am surprised to hear that GRAF is slow. That has not been my experience. I ordered ammo the night of 10/26 and received it (left coast) am 11/1. They also have a NRA roundup. I have never had a problem with their website. The midway website only works form me if I log in past 11pm. Midways shipping/handling charges look to me to have been reduced over where they were a couple of years ago. I quit them for a long time due to high handling charges. If I need a bulky or heavy item I go grafs for sure.
I just went over there to see what the problem was...lightning fast for me. Using Vista, Firefox and 6G of RAM on an Intel Core i7 920 processor.
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I just went over to Midway's 'new' site, and while it was as fast as their older site, I don't like the way they have things setup. In the past if I wanted to buy brass I could get to exactly the brass I wanted in a few clicks, now I have to do a search, and it pulls up not only brass, but bullets too. I've been buying from Midway, but didn't like their shipping charges, so I think I will try either Midsouth or Grafs the next time I need to order something.
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i have to agree with yall ,,,,, tis a tad on the slow side .
do ya think they are maybe "cutting costs" by going back to windows 95 and dial-up?,,,,,,
somebody with a pidgeon needs to send a note to ole Larry and ask what in blue h&#l is going on..
just jesting but it is rather slower than watching paint dry
i.m just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round..... i really love to watch them roll ,,,, J,W,L.
I, too, have experienced Midway's glacial website. That and I have had some problems with them in the past, so I don't currently do any business with them. I don't intend to in future, either.
Just an aside, X101. If Midway did not specifically represent the barrel in question as having been made by Alexander Arms... or strongly implied it.....then you have no legal standing to sue them for fraud in this issue. (If they DID, then, yes, you ARE an aggrieved party - and have legal standing.) If the "50 Beowulf" designation and cartridge are copyrighted/ patented by Alexander Arms and Midway is violating their rights.... then THEY have legal standing to sue Midway. Not trying to burst your bubble.....your beef with Midway may be well - founded....and I do NOT question it at all. I just wanted to offer that clarification.
I know no one cares, but I still can't use it. I thought it would be fixed by now. I used to manage large web sites. If we had a rollout like that we would try about two hours to fix it and If it wasn't working properly, by then, we would "roll-back"
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