I use a bunch of 231. It's cleaner than a lot of what's out there.
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I use a bunch of 231. It's cleaner than a lot of what's out there.
Thanks guys--all good info.
I knew this was the right place to ask.
Titewad, note the op concern was economy. This stuff is very clean, cheap and works great in low pressure loads. I bought an keg for $8?. a year or two back and use it for all my plinking and .45 ispc loads.
Jay
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Clean burning & lower priced . careful on the dbl charging tho.. Russ.
Again, thanks. Here's what I came up with.
Trail Boss is really a different powder and nothing compares exactly. It's clean, quiet, fluffy, low pressure and low recoil so it has its uses where all of those things are required at the same time. I compared the powders mentioned with grains, CUP, velocity and my Brinell Hardness and came up with all as good choices. I narrowed those and came up with Clays as the best alternative for me. It would be perfect if fluffier and didn't develop such a pressure spike but I look in every case so I'll be fine.
There is no easy answer because it is so subjective. Low velocity 'little girl" cast loads may be cheap but are inefficient and even clean powders can prove dirty.
Step up velocities or change boolit weight a tad and any of the powders would be just fine. Tightgroup, PB, Red Dot, Clay's International--really any powder mentioned works out fine on paper and would be OK. Every powder mentioned is workable--on paper.
So, i'm going to buy two powders--Trail Boss at $85 for 5 lbs and Clays at $110 for 8 lbs or $57 for 4 lbs from Powder Valley(?) and call it good. Yeah, it's more expensive and kind of different than how I started out but it will be a looong time before I need more. Thanks to all, this is a good site with informed people. I'll tell the wife it's your fault I bought both powders.
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Last edited by 4dogs; 12-03-2010 at 12:14 PM.
AA#2 is very clean and also one of the faster pistol powders so little is used . Also meters very well.
How well does Titewad flow through your measure?Originally Posted by mroliver77
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Regular Clays for all my pistols -- because I have 32 pounds of the stuff from skeet shooting. Works fine, shoots clean, drops nice, etc.
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I like regular Clays for target loads, low smoke and very clean in my 45 and 400 corbon. I also use it for my wifes trap loads.
I will agree that the new Unique is much cleaner than the older Unique but still not as clean as Clays.
If you are after the bulkiness as well as clean then Alliant's American Select works well in low pressure situations. It's a flake powder that has size to it and is "fluffy" which is great for the light 45 and 44 loads, but light loads may be an issue with metering in the 38 with the smaller charges.
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4 Dogs--
As soon as all of us receive the "50# of Linotype" initiation fee, the free ham will arrive by FedEx. From Nigeria. Really.
Welcome to the Enabler's Online Retreat. I use a lot of WW-231 for the mid-range revolver and pistol work. I'm not real concerned about cleanliness, but subscribe faithfully to the maxim that many of the best things in life are DIRTY. 4-wheeling........duck hunting.......turning wrenches on old trucks. You get my drift. And Hoppe's smells good.
Trail Boss is fun to work with. I got 4 of the 9 oz. bottles about a year ago for a decent price, and have really just started exploring its possibilities. If I gave half a rip about economy, reloading 35 metallic calibers is a strange way to go about those inquiries. Oh yeah, I'm just saving tons of cash now!
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ipp
although not as bulky, GI brass has some IPP which is $55/5lbs, more like 5.2lbs. He said its comparable to unique and loads almost as such. I did some extensive loads with it the last few weeks and am going to post my info on the canister powder board.
plus, buy 6 and he waves the hazmat.
double plus, it has data for all my rounds from 9mm up to 44 mag.
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stick with trailboss
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