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Thread: Cast only 40 S&W ???

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    Pat--

    I came to the same conclusion about the CZ-75B that you did, and in short order.

    The S&W 4006 is a very good pistol, even if made in the USA. There seems to be a tendency for some pistol enthusiasts to look down their noses at any American-made service pistol other than a 1911A1, and that is DUMB. I think highly of both S&W and Ruger service pistols, and have had nothing but good experiences with my examples.
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    I have a Ruger in .40 and it is reliable as sunrise. I also have Glocks. I have shot but don't own a Springfield XD in .40. All of them are fine pistols and very reliable. Unfortunately, I have no experience with the CZ-75 but from all reports here and others it is a very fine pistol. Shoot them all and get which ever fits your hand best. All of them will shoot cast bullets. If you have concerns about Glocks then get it an aftermarket barrel and consider it money well spent on your piece of mind.

    Just my dos centavos.

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    I'd like to see more on the subject like what boolits don't feed in what guns.

    Best thing about .40s&w? Cheap brass. I must have 2000 + cases. I bought a thousand for 40 bucks from pats reloading.

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    I can't imagine any truncated cone boolit not feeding in a ,40cal.

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    175gr lees work well out of my M&P 40. I would recommend a lube groove bullet. THe TL bullets I have can give some wicked leading. I have put about 5000 of these through my M&P they shoot well but need to clean the bore about every 2-300 rds to get ride of the leading.

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    40 s&w

    I bought a Hi-Point 40S&W and shoot 175 Lee TC's out of it. The gun is heavier than most 40's and is not a CCW, but, it is loads of fun to shoot, reliable and inexpensive.
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    The only bullets I've had not feed were .402 155 gr round nose bullets. I think maybe RNSWC or something strange like that.

    I'm looking for a relatively light boolit to cast in bulk for IDPA. I have one of the Miha molds, but I think it'd be much easier to cast a few hundred a month from a 4- or 6-banger mould than from a double. I think that 15 grains of difference might make enough difference to make IDPA bad practice rather than good, if I'm carrying 165's or 160's.

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    Nothing but high praise for the CZ75B 40S&W.

    With Mihecs 40 160 penta pin HP's

    This gun's a shooter.
    Give us this day our daily lead.

    Sic Semper Tyrannis.

    If you don't want 1984 you're going to need some 1776.
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    CZ 75B .40...slight modifications


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    My Christmas present this year is a Storm Lake ported barrel in .40 S & W for my Glock .32
    (.357 Sig). It is not here yet, but we will have to see how that works out. I would really like to try the Lee 145 grain boolit in that barrel. Now you guys have got me wanting a CZ-75B in .40 S & W. My wife spent 10 years in the Czech Republic as a missionary, so she wants a CZ-75, but in 9mm, so it will probably never happen, but it's a thought.

    Glad to hear that the .357 Sig will do the job on a deer. Not sure it would be legal in NE, but it is still good to know.

    Here is a question for you. If I bought the Lee 145 grain mold, could I shoot them sized out of the Glock, and unsized out of my Ruger Blackhawk in .41 magnum? I wonder what the unsized diameter of a cast .401 boolit is? Just curious.

    Merry Christmas to all, and thanks to God for sending His Son to earth on our behalf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exile View Post
    Here is a question for you. If I bought the Lee 145 grain mold, could I shoot them sized out of the Glock, and unsized out of my Ruger Blackhawk in .41 magnum? I wonder what the unsized diameter of a cast .401 boolit is? Just curious.
    Mine drops at .402. Quite a bit too small to work in the .41.

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    Thanks for the information, I have always been curious about that.

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    Two extremes from small to large in hand guns , one Keltec 40 s+w and Ruger P-91 in 40 ....as far as soft shooting 40's (silly statement) ..135 gr is really nice
    I also have the Mihec mold in the 40 sw and it produces a nice boolit with all the choices , creates some nice custom loads for the little Keltec .
    Then turn around and load up for the Ruger , Wow! that thing will eat all that you can feed it and ask for more !.
    Big pistol that it is .....

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    Lee TL 175 grain TC, after leementing, come out 180 grain in wheel weight. Other than an occasional box of Wallyworld Winchester to eventually break in the barrel, it's all I shoot for .40 S&W.

    Pistol is S&W M&P .40 C with fully supported chamber. I can load hot, but I prefer .40 light.

    Jameslovesjaimie, your CZ looks AWESOME. I really wanted to give the CZ a keep, but my fingers are just too short for the platform. That custom trigger you have on yours looks like it would make all the difference for my hand. I take it it's not double action?

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    If you go the cz or glock route, you can run the 9mm barrel in a 40 upper. Have done it with glock and with a cz75. You cannot go the other way without an upper change unless you have a very out of spec 9mm slide.

    I shoot a Springfield P-9 which is a tanfoglio cz75b clone and it will use witness parts as mine has a few in it currently. I wish it were the 40 upper instead of the 9mm, for the previous mentioned reason.

    It really depends on what you want to do with the gun when you shoot cast. If it is a range gun or game gun, an all steel gun would my choice. If it is a carry gun the all steel gun would not be my Choice.

    I HAD a star firestar 40. That thing had so many sharp edges It would have taken a lifetime to melt it to make it comfortable to shoot. It however digested everything it was feed, including cast bullets. But as mentioned it was not comfortable to shoot with any load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogbert41 View Post
    Jameslovesjammie, your CZ looks AWESOME. I really wanted to give the CZ a keep, but my fingers are just too short for the platform. That custom trigger you have on yours looks like it would make all the difference for my hand. I take it it's not double action?
    dogbert41,

    No, it is a 75B converted to single action. I installed the competition hammer, tactical rear sight, flat aluminum single action only trigger, polished the insides, resprang it, and put on some wood grips I got from a member on the CZ forum.

    Head on over to the CZ forum (which is owned and moderated by Armoredman who is a member here as well). If you are having a difficult time with trigger reach, there are a few different combinations that members have used to get a shorter trigger pull. That and different grips will get you where you want your finger to be.

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    Anybody know what twist S&W put in the M&P .40? I slugged and looked one over in 9mm and it was .355" and slower-than 1 in 14. Just right for cast.
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