Surplus powders available

[bradh]

Jeff Barlett at www.gibrass.com is listing several surplus powders that have not been available for some time. You might what to check it out...he's even got surplus IMR8208 pulldown. Prices will keep me from buying $100 to $150 for
8 poun d jug....check it out.

[RayinNH]

At those prices you may as well buy canister powder....Ray

[frankenfab]

At those prices you may as well buy canister powder....Ray

+1

I bought alot from Jeff when the prices were much better. But not now.

[wiljen]

Real 4759 is only $22 difference at PV. not much of a savings there. When it was half the cost of canister it was worth it. For the difference now, not so much.

[357maximum]

Surplus powders have basically priced themselves into extinction IMHO. I can buy an 8lb jug of Hodgdons rifle powders for $122-$132 locally ............wheres the savings when you incur shipping & Hazmat on the surplus? Cannister powders are real close lot to lot and need less "workup" .........false economy I say.

[StarMetal]

The surplus powders that are the most usable are the ones that have the high prices. If you take the ones that have a limited application like 5010 or 860 they are much cheaper and a bargain. What the surplus dealers don't realize is this new 867 is a jewel because they think it's slow and it's not. I love it and bought a whole bunch of it. I asked Wideners how much they have and my buddy there said a pod full. If I had the money I'd buy all of it.

[Lloyd Smale]

For a 150 bucks a jug he can keep it.

[Beau Cassidy]

at those prices you may as well buy canister powder....ray

+ 100000!

[BCB]

Yep, I agree about the price of the surplus powder anymore…

I began purchasing it from Dexter Automotive (I think that was the name then) in the 1980’s and it is now Wiedners (sp) .located in Kansas…

I was purchasing 8-pound kegs of surplus H-335—go figure! I purchased at least 4 of those kegs as it was the powder for my Contender in 30-30, 7-30, and 223. I burnt it all up plus several other 8 pounders for local stores—the price was not as good…

I presently have WC-844, WC-852, WC-820, WC-680, WC-860, and 5010-PD. SR-4759 was also available…

I continue to watch Pat’s Reloading and Bartlett’s websites, but there are no good buys. Yep the slow burners are still inexpensive, but they have limited application. Fill the case, jump up and down on the powder charge and then put some more in and then seat the boolit!...

I think “Good-Time Charlie” got the blues when it comes to surplus powder prices…

As the saying goes, “Call someplace paradise—kiss it good-bye”…

I do hear some of the “ol’ times” talking about purchasing H-4831 in the 60’s for 50¢ per pound! Someone would purchase a 55-gallon drum of it and weigh it out with scales—oh boy, to have that now…

And so it goes…

BCB

[9.3X62AL]

I hope those milsurp fuels taste good with ketchup, 'cause at that price Mr. Bartlett might wind up eating them. Who does he think will pay commercial canister price for bulk milsurp? Sounds like a reprise of the Primer Buccaneer Syndrome from past months to me.

[KYCaster]

Don't blame Jeff for the high price of surp powders. The price is the result of supply and demand...and the decision to limit the supply came directly from the White House on Slick Willy's watch.

If you're gonna blame somebody, blame him.

Jerry

[mtgrs737]

Yep, I agree about the price of the surplus powder anymore…

I began purchasing it from Dexter Automotive (I think that was the name then) in the 1980’s and it is now Wiedners (sp) .located in Kansas…

I was purchasing 8-pound kegs of surplus H-335—go figure! I purchased at least 4 of those kegs as it was the powder for my Contender in 30-30, 7-30, and 223. I burnt it all up plus several other 8 pounders for local stores—the price was not as good…

I presently have WC-844, WC-852, WC-820, WC-680, WC-860, and 5010-PD. SR-4759 was also available…

I continue to watch Pat’s Reloading and Bartlett’s websites, but there are no good buys. Yep the slow burners are still inexpensive, but they have limited application. Fill the case, jump up and down on the powder charge and then put some more in and then seat the boolit!...

I think “Good-Time Charlie” got the blues when it comes to surplus powder prices…

As the saying goes, “Call someplace paradise—kiss it good-bye”…

I do hear some of the “ol’ times” talking about purchasing H-4831 in the 60’s for 50¢ per pound! Someone would purchase a 55-gallon drum of it and weigh it out with scales—oh boy, to have that now…

And so it goes…

BCB

Just a note on Dexter Automotive, it is now Powder Valley. They are excellent people to work with!

[StarMetal]

Nobody listens....the 867 isn't nearly as slow as they post on their websites....I know I have some and have shot like two pounds of it already.

[357maximum]

Nobody listens....the 867 isn't nearly as slow as they post on their websites....I know I have some and have shot like two pounds of it already.

Joey

In a (51,53,57,63 mm) case what commercial powder would you say 867 emmulates?

[Lloyd Smale]

no doubt your right. He can only get so much and I guess he has to feed his family but if it doesnt make economic sense ill pass. I reload for two reasons. to make good ammo and because i shoot a ton of ammo and it saves money. When surplus saves me money i buy it but to buy surplus and work up a load for it and find a year later you cant get anymore it just doesnt make sense when you can buy comercial powder for the same price or a tad more and be insured another jug will be there when i run out makes more sense to me.

Don't blame Jeff for the high price of surp powders. The price is the result of supply and demand...and the decision to limit the supply came directly from the White House on Slick Willy's watch.

If you're gonna blame somebody, blame him.

Jerry

[BCB]

mtgrs737,

You are indeed correct!

I stand corrected!

Thanks...BCB

[swheeler]

Well thank you Slick Willy for ending the days of 22.00 jugs of WC860, 52.00 WC852 and 64.00 jugs of WC846-844 and 4895.

[9.3X62AL]

KY, you are correct. Sorry, Jeff. I'm just tired of the buccaneering bit.

[Eagles6]

Just too darn expensive,

[BCB]

Ain't into politics at all, but it sure seems like a long time for the "limited" supply to kick in from the Clinton days. Seems that would be 10 years ago?...

I purchased surplus powder sometime during the past 10 years and it never was as high as it is today...

Maybe so on the limited supplies, but I know people take advantage of situations--period...

Gas stations raise prices as soon as it is announced that prices will increase by the 4th or whatever holiday. Hell, they haven't even got a new shipment put into their storage tanks...

Plain and simple, if you can get the money, why worry about what people say? I bet all the surplus the Barlett and McDonald (?) get, they sell...

If ones looks at the prices, the most versatile powders bring the big bucks. The super slow burners and almost "dirt" cheap. I think part of that is the price per unit of energy created by a given weight of any powder. Guess it takes much more 5010 to equal WC-820 of a given weght. Regardless, the prices are reflected in the usefullness of the powder. If 10 grains of 5010 equals 2 grains of a fast burner, than the price of the fast burner can be 5 times as much and there is still the "break even" set up. Yet, the slow burner seems much less expensive...

And I agree that canister grade powder is almost as cheap now. Maybe equal in price after adding the shipping and haz mat fee onto the surplus powder. If you ain't ordering 6 eight-pound kegs at one time, the hazmat kills ya...

And so it goes...BCB