Load DataMidSouth Shooters SupplyInline FabricationTitan Reloading
WidenersReloading EverythingRepackboxSnyders Jerky
Lee Precision RotoMetals2
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 66

Thread: What seems to be the best hunting bullet in the 357?

  1. #1
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,670

    What seems to be the best hunting bullet in the 357?

    HI,
    What is the best hunting bullet in the 357 mag. pistol ?

  2. #2
    In Remebrance


    Bret4207's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    St Lawrence Valley, NY
    Posts
    12,924
    For what? Deer? Bear? Woodchucks? For small game a standard WC at 38 Special mid range velocity is hard to beat. For coyotes and woodchucks, porkys, beaver, feral dogs the 150-160 gr SWC designs like the 358156 work well. For deer and black bear I prefer something in the 170-180 gr area with a decent metplat. The 358429 and Lee 38-180FN seem to work well. I've killed maybe 100 deer with 158 JSP magnum ammo. A cast boolit will out penetrate them any day of the week.

    My best advice? Find a boolit of proper design that your gun like to shoot. Even on deer, which seem big, accuracy is key.

  3. #3
    Boolit Master
    HeavyMetal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Orange county, Ca.
    Posts
    3,944
    +1 on what Bert says.

    Bought a Contender 357 barrel a year or so ago, early Octogon with very minimal "throat", and then stumbled across a SC Lyman 358429 mold.

    Got Buckshot to HP it for me and it works great! Have not hunted with it yet but would have no fear of any deer walking away from a well placed shot!

  4. #4
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    380
    Lyman 358429.


    Not the only good bullet but so proven that further search isn't needed.........unless you have a short cylinder .357 and can't use.357 brass and crimp in the groove. Keith loved his bullet and just seated deep and crimped over the front band. You can shorten your brass some and still use the groove, use .38 spl brass (I don't like that since a magnum load could all too easily wind up in a .38). Or go find another SWC or FP. There are lots of good ones.
    Cast is an adjective, a noun and a verb. Cast works as both imperative and past tense without any additional letters or helping verbs.

  5. #5
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Dyer, Tn
    Posts
    1,224
    in a 6" Colt trooper I once while I crimped over the front band the bullet 358429 would punch a hole in a late 50's Buick bumper-- it was thick and big -- and this was the only bullet I had that would-- +1 on Buckshot --he did a 410459 for me --good job

  6. #6
    Boolit Master Glen's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    The great Pacific Northwest
    Posts
    995
    +1 for everything Bret said. The one other thing I would add is that if vermin are on the list (ground squirrels, jack rabbits, chucks, etc.) that Elmer's HP (the Lyman/Ideal 358439) is an excellent bullet.
    Glen

  7. #7
    Boolit Master jameslovesjammie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Plentywood
    Posts
    850
    The best bullet I have used on deer is the Hornady XTP 180 grain. As far as boolits go, I just got the 180 grain HP from Night Owl and the 205 grain Group Buys that should be even better!

  8. #8
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,670
    HI,
    This will be mainly for deer, but want it to be up to discouraging a bear if it tried to come in my tent with me. For that matter if a bear tried to take my deer, I would eat him too!

  9. #9
    Boolit Grand Master


    stubshaft's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Southernmost State of the Union
    Posts
    5,908
    J-word 180gr Remington JHP.
    Old enough to know better, young enough to do it anyway!

    Men who don't understand women fall into two categories: bachelors and husbands!

  10. #10
    anachronism
    Guest
    My personal favorite is the 185 LBT LFN, if your revolvers cylinder is long enough to handle it. Mine shoots it's best at about 1300 fps or so.

  11. #11
    Boolit Master

    RayinNH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    NH
    Posts
    2,361
    A .45 caliber one ...Ray
    Proud member in the basket of deplorables.

    I've got the itch, but don't got the scratch.




  12. #12
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,670
    HI,
    I am leaning towards a 180gr. bullet at the moment.

  13. #13
    Boolit Grand Master

    MtGun44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    eastern Kansas- suburb of KC
    Posts
    15,023
    You never said what you were hunting.

    Bill
    If it was easy, anybody could do it.

  14. #14
    anachronism
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by MtGun44 View Post
    You never said what you were hunting.

    Bill
    Deer. In post #8. But knowing which revolver is being used would help immensely
    Last edited by anachronism; 08-02-2009 at 08:15 PM.

  15. #15
    Boolit Master

    GP100man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Southeast, NC (Coastal plains)
    Posts
    2,123
    my vote is for358429, a good swc is hard to beat!

    GP100man

  16. #16
    Boolit Grand Master
    9.3X62AL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Redlands, NorKifornia
    Posts
    11,551
    Only one deer with the 357 Mag in a handgun, and that one fell to a Speer 146 half-jacket SWC/HP. Went about 10 feet, and piled up. Through-and-through shot, from above and behind left shoulder and out low and in front of right shoulder. 1300 FPS from 586 x 6".

    Any of these--homogenous 92/6/2 alloy of #358429 or #358156, or the group buy 180 RNFP or #358430 cast as a softpoint. Full-potential pressure/velocity. Venison or bear medicine.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

  17. #17
    Boolit Grand Master

    MtGun44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    eastern Kansas- suburb of KC
    Posts
    15,023
    Any cast with a lg meplat that shoots accurately and weighs at least 158 gr should shoot
    thru any deer at full power .357 velocities. Place it properly and you will not have to track
    far. Some report the hard cast HPs blow off the front portion and cause havoc plus the
    base punches all the way thru. I have only just started learning about HP cast, so have
    no personal experience to add on that score.

    Bill
    If it was easy, anybody could do it.

  18. #18
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,670

    146gr. Speer HJHP

    HI,
    In my early days of reloading (1970's) I did all the book ballistic calculations for muzzle energy & chose the 146 gr. Speer half jacket hollow point as my deer bullet for the 357( still have 200 of those old loads with 2400 sitting on the shelf). I wondered if anyone else would suggest it. I felt it was the best choice back then.

    But bullet technology has come a long way since then so I was wondering what was felt to be a better bullet now.

    Did some penetration test on a road kill deer with it & at 25ft. it would pass through both shoulders as well as hips & exit the far side.
    Also did same test with Lyman 158 gr. Kieth style SWC with same results.

  19. #19
    Boolit Buddy lead Foot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    A Cattle Station in QLD Australia
    Posts
    423
    When out shooting feral pigs.I took my Dan Wesson .357 with my new barrel. I wanted to run the barrel in with jackets. I tried a bit every thing Remington, Hornady to Norma. I had 200 rounds to run the barrel in and wasn't to impressed with any. I was thinking of a bigger gun until I tried my RCBS 35-200FN Rounds. They out performed all the Jackets hands down. They are only doing 1150 fps, 50/50 W/W.
    Lead foot;

  20. #20
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,670
    HI,
    Unfortunately I was not able to find any of the 146 HJHP Speers or the 158 swc cast from air cooled WW, to see if they expanded.
    IFIRC the gun magazines have said the newer bullet designs are much better in expansion.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check