Remingtons 360 Buck Hammer

[Sgt H]

Don't think an 870 action is strong enough for the pressure. On the other hand resurrect the IMI Timberwolf.

[William Yanda]

Wasn't the 307 Win a workaround for countries which disallowed "military" calibers?

[FergusonTO35]

As I recall, the .307 was basically a .308 with a rim and flat point bullet suitable for use in the 94 Big Bore. It was never available in anything but a Winchester or Marlin lever action.

[Rich/WIS]

The 307 and 356 were available in the 94 AE as in angle eject. Idea was to overcome the scope mounting problems in the original 94. Both had more velocity than the 30/30 or 35 Rem and extend the range of the 94 to 200 yds or a bit more. Not sure why but they didn't catch on, or if they are even chambered anymore, and ammo is hard to find unless you reload, and most hunters don't.

[cwlongshot]

What I have gathered about the New Remington 360 Buck hammer.
https://youtu.be/oVHSEfnpxTM

[stubshaft]

Once brass is available, I'll have an easier time forming 357 Herretts. I would have preferred to see the 375 SM resurrected.

[Tim357]

Don't think an 870 action is strong enough for the pressure. On the other hand resurrect the IMI Timberwolf.

Yes, resurrect the Timberwolf!

IIRC, the 870 Rem was the inspiration and model for the Timberwolf. Wish I'd bought one forty years ago

[Texas by God]

Savage made the Model 170 pump in 30-30 and .35 Rem using the same action as their .410 pump of the period. I was sorta joking about the 870….sorta.
In my opinion, straight wall regulations are dumb. Down here, anything center fire is allowed.
Some may consider that dumb, but it works for us!
If I ever get to hunt in a straight wall state; my 38-55 is ready to go.


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[Pereira]

Savage made the Model 170 pump in 30-30 and .35 Rem using the same action as their .410 pump of the period. I was sorta joking about the 870….sorta.
In my opinion, straight wall regulations are dumb. Down here, anything center fire is allowed.
Some may consider that dumb, but it works for us!
If I ever get to hunt in a straight wall state; my 38-55 is ready to go.


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I've got one of those 170's in 35 Rem.
Here is about the same way now a days, 223 up.

RP

[Jedman]

Savage made the Model 170 pump in 30-30 and .35 Rem using the same action as their .410 pump of the period. I was sorta joking about the 870….sorta.
In my opinion, straight wall regulations are dumb. Down here, anything center fire is allowed.
Some may consider that dumb, but it works for us!
If I ever get to hunt in a straight wall state; my 38-55 is ready to go.


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Now that I live in the southern half of MI we have the silly strait walled restrictions where the case length must be 1.8” or less so your 38-55 ( and mine ) are to long to be legal.
Ohio started out with a list of approved strait walled cartridges for the first year when they started allowing rifles in deer gun season and if yours wasn’t listed you were SOL. Then someone decided that they should make the rifle laws the same as the pistol regulations that were in place for many years prior where any cartridge .357 or larger and the case was strait walled would be allowed.
So from way back in the early 1980’s when OH started allowing handguns with strait walled cartridges to be legal you could have theoretically had a single shot handgun chambered in 458 Lott with a 30” barrel and it would be legal for deer gun season as they had a 5” minimum barrel length but no maximum length.
So now it’s the same rule for rifles in OH.

Jedman

[cwlongshot]

As stated we can argue the ignorance of the laws but we know who writes the laws and we know they are ignorant at best to most if what they govern.

Bottom line is they feel straight wall is less powerful. Less powerful means less range/distance so "safe" like the shotgun was. But its better then a shotgun for us. These calibers are built to suite these restrictions and as many of them as possible.

CW

[cwlongshot]

https://www.remington.com/on/demandw...3_FINAL_lo.pdf

Found this today!!

[GrizzLeeBear]

Looks like Remington is serious about it. We'll see how long it takes Henry to get rifles out for it.

I find it interesting that Winchester basically came out with a short straight wall version of the 35 remington (even with the wrong bullet diameter) and Remington is coming out with a short straight wall version of the 35 Winchester.

Many people these days want an AR15 deer rifle (don't get me wrong I have one with a .223 and 300 BLK uppper) but I would be much more interested in 360 lever action for deer hunting in the Limited Firearms Zone here in Michigan.

[garandsrus]

I think Remington is really playing catch up, and I don’t think they will ever catch up. The 350 Legend is pretty firmly entrenched in the straight wall states and has a good reputation. It should work fine in a lever action if that’s what’s wanted. If a person wants more power, the 450 Bushmaster has them covered, not to mention all the 44 Mag lever actions that work great for deer.

As for single shots, 357 Max has been around a long time and has a big following. The 38-55 and 375 Win are also straight wall choices and both are available primarily in lever actions. They don’t meet the 1.8” requirement though, if there is one. I would think both have more power than the 360 BH. Their cases can be formed from 30-30 case very easily.

I do wish that the Legend had been chambered in .358 instead of 9mm, but it doesn’t really matter other than bullet availability, which will be resolved, if it hasn’t already.

[cwlongshot]

It probably will end up being a BFR caliber, too. GF

I have been asking them for a maxi BFR for years!! Then they release the 9x45!!!

CW

[Geraldo]

Once brass is available, I'll have an easier time forming 357 Herretts.

That's a good thing. The 360 conversation reminded me that I need to shoot my Herrett more.

[cwlongshot]

Im betting that they use a re enforced case head like seen in the 375 Winchester case.

Those ballistics are probably just a lil warmer then the ol 30-30 was designed around.

[garandsrus]

You could make 360 BH from 375 Win.

[FergusonTO35]

Last I heard, Henry was running 24/7 and backlogged with orders for like five years so, unless they suddenly find more capacity, I doubt I will see one anytime soon.