Making that Bullet Collator

[TylerR]

Are the step/3mf files or any other source files that these stl files are generated from available somewhere?

No the source is not posted. I do give out very specific files sometimes but they are in DSM.

[GWS]

I think it depends on how many bullets you are loading in the hopper. I have a guy who wants to load up 1000 9mm bullets in to a 300mm size feeder. Strips the hex out very quickly.

I can imagine that's so. I admit freely that I NEVER fill up a collater with heavy bullets, and never plan to. My max is a hundred count box at a time at the very most. PLA is lightweight, and thermal printing a .2mm layer at a time is not even close as strong as injection molded nylon or such. But I want my plates and base to last a long time, and they will if I'm reasonable. 1000 9mm is bad enough....how about a 1000 .45's. that would really abuse. But to each there own, I guess.

[r4ndy]

Using the regular size feeders for a few years, the clutch works perfectly IMO. Never stripped a clutch with well North of 10K rounds through two collators. I typically start with 250-300 124gr 9’s in the collator and do fine with the Greartisan motor. If I fill the brass collator much more than a couple hundred for 223 processing the clutch spins, so I just don’t overfill. They also don’t feed as well when I put too many in at a time. Also, it is good to take a few min and rest my old shoulder while refilling to avoid repetitive stress as I had some ligament issues a couple years back.

[doublemike]

No the source is not posted. I do give out very specific files sometimes but they are in DSM.

That's a bummer. Why not make it a community project?
Due to the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license I thought people would be able to adapt.

This makes for a lot of duplicated efforts.

[calgarysparky]

I've switched to CF-PETG for clutches. Easy to print and man is that stuff strong. Just use a .5mm steel nozzle.

[GWS]

That's a bummer. Why not make it a community project?
Due to the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license I thought people would be able to adapt.

This makes for a lot of duplicated efforts.

The ".stl files are free. You could print them, measure them, reverse engineer them and modify them all you want, just leave the circle T off. But the source is TylerR's intellectual property and posting it to everyone would as certain as the sun will come up tomorrow, backfire. Somebody will start selling products and infringing commercial patents and he'll get the blame. That's why the Creative Commons thing....to prevent that....not to make it a community project.

AmmoMike, whose original tiny simple bullet collator started this thread, had exactly that happen to him. A lawsuit really took the wind out of his sails. We all appreciate what AmmoMike created, but TylerR improved it and expanded it hugely. Let's keep it from disappearing like Ammo Mike's did. Duplicated effort is a small price to pay.

[doublemike]

The ".stl files are free. You could print them, measure them, reverse engineer them and modify them all you want, just leave the circle T off. But the source is TylerR's intellectual property and posting it to everyone would as certain as the sun will come up tomorrow, backfire. Somebody will start selling products and infringing commercial patents and he'll get the blame. That's why the Creative Commons thing....to prevent that....not to make it a community project.

AmmoMike, whose original tiny simple bullet collator started this thread, had exactly that happen to him. A lawsuit really took the wind out of his sails. We all appreciate what AmmoMike created, but TylerR improved it and expanded it hugely. Let's keep it from disappearing like Ammo Mike's did. Duplicated effort is a small price to pay.

Pretty sure that's not what the creative commons license is for or protects you from, or any open source license for that matter.
The license already says you can use and adapt it freely for non-commercial use. So whether that's the source files or the resulting files doesn't matter. Someone can still infringe on patents just with extra steps. The source is the same. The responsibility would be with the person infringing upon the patent. If a pull request comes that infringes on patents that could still be declined in the github repository. Or he could just not allow any external changes but still share the sources. In that sense having the step/3mf files or the stl files in the repo would not make any difference on the legal side of things. So I guess something else is at play.
With all due respect for TylerR, it's a single point of failure and a single point of attack. He goes down and all efforts can be done over.

I also don't see why someone would take the effort to take the T off if they want to infringe on intellectual property/patents. It's just extra hassle with STL files.

Nonetheless I have huge respect for all people involved and having put effort into this project. So big thanks for that!