What is wrong with people!!

[Indiana shooter]

It's opening day of the KY firearm season. I pull up to one of the 2 remaining small private land spots that I have permission to hunt on and there's 7 trucks parked there? Only my grandpa, the property owners neighbor, and myself have permission to hunt this 29 acre plot.

I investigated the mob of trucks ( that rutted out the dirt road leading to the pole barn) and found that they were from the 9 people that the neighbor invited to hunt on land that wasn't his. I left and went to the other property.

I received a phone call later in the afternoon from the landowner stating that this group of "hunters" had torn down fencing, kicked out bords in the loft of the barn, field dressed the deer next to the road and shot 2 small calfs. Obviously she won't be allowing any hunting on her property anymore.

I don't blame her at all but what's wrong with people! A calf is obviously not a deer, if it ain't your property you should respect it and leave no footprint when you leave, and how in the world is it safe to have 10 people hunting 29 acres that is mostly field?

Just more proof that common sense is no longer a common virtue.

[Four-Sixty]

People do disappoint so often these days.

[jcwit]

Why did you not alert the landowner of this along with the plate & VIN numbers?

[JWFilips]

This Socialist society is very sick!

[Hannibal]

Why did you not alert the landowner of this along with the plate & VIN numbers?

I hereby nominate this as "The Good Question Of The Thread". Unchallenged behavior propagates. Ergo, next year it will likely be worse.

[leeggen]

When I was hunting in Florida at a management area a hunter came to the check station and said he needed help retreiving his deer he just shot, a really big "spike". The ranger went with him and the guy had shot a black and red steer weighing about 1500 pounds. Some people should NEVER be allowed to hunt.
CD

[country gent]

I have seen this here for awhile not only deer season but small game also. Its discouraging when they cut fences and damage property equipment or livestock. The worst thing is when confronted these slobs will argue and fight they are in the right and legally doing what they are doing. Weve had these people drive thru winter wheat to get to the animal. Ive seen them cut fences remove sections to drive thru when the gate is 100 yds down. Some fur hunters used to build fires in hollow trees to drive animals out then leave causing fires and damage. ANd the really sad thing is true hunters and sportsman get the black eye for these slobs behaviour.

[jsizemore]

I'm 60-something years old. This stuff has been going on since I was a child. Where I live, I don't put up with this mess and back my neighbors to keep theirs right. It does help that some are retired or current LE and there is often gunfire in the area.

[Plate plinker]

I hereby nominate this as "The Good Question Of The Thread". Unchallenged behavior propagates. Ergo, next year it will likely be worse.

+1 to that I would have been on the horn ASAP getting some LEO back up. The calves the shot are worth enough to warrant Felonies.

[wv109323]

You left out they threw trash and beer cans all over the place.
I hate to omit it but testosterone and firearms do not mix well. You hear this story time after time each hunting season.
I hope the landowner recoups her loss.
I own 37 acres and give only my neighbor permission to hunt on it. They are very nice people. There unknown people without permission ride four-wheelers through areas I am hunting. I have found multiple illegal kills that they leave laying.
People have no respect .

[blademasterii]

Should have collected a bunch of lugnuts.

[labradigger1]

"What is wrong with people."


Some people are stupid

[Hannibal]

Should have collected a bunch of lugnuts.

While I agree one-upmanship sounds gratifying, emulating the sort of behavior causing the problem solves nothing.

Passive-agressive responses are not solutions.

[Plate plinker]

Should have collected a bunch of lugnuts.

Valve stems? Some of my relatives were know to take those out or just losses them just enough. Back in the good ole days anyhow.

[Indiana shooter]

Why did you not alert the landowner of this along with the plate & VIN numbers?

I made a call the the landowner but she is very hard of hearing and seldom hears the phone ring. I didn't think of taking vehicle information at the time and being that the land isn't mine I didn't think I had the right to run them off. Besides, last year the neighbor brought two people and only hunted opening morning and my grandpa and I had the place to ourselves the rest of the year. I figured it would be more of the same but I'd have to pick up more trash.

[bedbugbilly]

We don't allow anybody to hunt on our farm. I have enough problem with neighbors sneaking in and they certainly should know better. A couple years ago, I found a large buck out in the middle of one of my fields. What irritated me the most was that it was shot and then the culprit cut the large trophy rack off with a hacksaw and then just left the carcass.

As mentioned . . this type of behavior isn't new. I'm 63 and it's been going on for years . . not just deer season but small game season as well. I can well remember that my Dad and I had just finished up a new woven wire line fence just before small game season. In two weeks, it had something like 7 "dog holes" cut in it in about 4 or 6 rods. That type of behavior takes guts.

Today, people feel "entitled" to hunt where ever they want. If I find a truck parked on the farm . . which is private property . . . I call LE and have it towed. Unfortunately . . . most of these "hunters" will shoot at anything that moves. I hear a lot of talk about those that leave beer cans, etc. around as well. Sorry . . . but as far as I'm concerned, liquor and hunting and guns don't mix . . PERIOD! The same as at a range. If someone wants to drink . . then stay home or go to a bar . . but don[t drive. If a person wants to hunt, then hunt.

And it isn't limited to hunting either. We don't run cattle anymore. At one time, we had 10 miles of fence to keep up and that doesn't come cheap. What I can't understand is parents who give their kids snowmobiles or dirt bikes and then don't see any reason why they shouldn't be able to ride anywhere they want . . . including my fields and destroying our crops. Or older folks who should know better as well.

[MaLar]

"What is wrong with people."
Some people are stupid

My opinion is selfish, self centered, uncaring for others.
That's what's wrong with society today!

[CLAYPOOL]

TAKE the license plate number and time. Cell phones have cameras , Take a photo. Call the warden. THEY LIKE YOU TO DO THEIR WORK...!

[propwashp47]

it seams it wood have been worth the drive over to her house knowing she has trouble hearing the phone. not helping an aged woman protect her land over heading over to your second spot was a poor choice. here we here operation game theft . reward hotline 800-792-4263 www.orgttx.com or text to 847411 start message with TPWD. hunting without with out written permission of landowner = illegal hunting .trespass with a firearm , killing of livestock, cutting for fences are all felonies. confiscation of autos and all fire arms. loss of hunting rights for a number of years heavy fines for killing live stock fines by the pound for stolen game plus restitution for property damage and jail time. standing up for some one who can not stand up them selves' is never wrong. propwash

[jcwit]

When I was a kid 60/65 years ago I hunted neighbors property and woods, all we had was pasture. Fence crossing rules, #1 cross at a gate, #2 cross at a corner post, #3 cross at a post WOODEN post never a steel post, and even then you better walk to the corner post if possible. Lord help you if cutting a wire.

Always and I mean always, pick up your spent shells as well as any empty shells found left by others.

BTW, I should back then written permission was not required at least in the small town I still live in, everyone knew everyone else, population was less then 1,000 folks back they.
Things are different today of course.