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    Things we hear

    A fellow stopped at my bench and asked "what kind of rifle is that?" I responded that it is a Stevens 44-1/2. He replied, "that a weird bullet."

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    The 44 1/2 isn't so common, his mistake is funny but not unforgivable. The guys dropping 22lr down the barrel of a ruger chambered in 222 they were perplexed as to why the rounds went all the way through.when I told them 222 was a center fire varmint cartridge I got the "look" like lost in space.

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    Should have told him it was twice as powerful as your Asperly Aimless 22-1/4.
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    Some times i just laugh and walk away. There is so much niffty and wierd stuff and gear i have never seen.
    Nice to watch and learn.
    Once was told a 303 mag will hold as many as 13 rounds. Arg.
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    Heard one of the gun shop blow hards telling his audience, "I only uses a 20 gauge to hunt birds cause it don't hurt the dogs like a 12 gauge does. "
    Only left handed guns are interesting!

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    I'm not too worried about stupid people it just bothers me that we let them vote and serve on juries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mart View Post
    Heard one of the gun shop blow hards telling his audience, "I only uses a 20 gauge to hunt birds cause it don't hurt the dogs like a 12 gauge does. "
    Was he talking about hearing?

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    here is one more for you all
    was at a cowboy completion a few years back and a shooter there was short on ammo and was asking around if any one had any extra to spare
    he asked me what caliber you shooting i replied 38-40
    then he asked you have any spare ammo i can use
    i said yep have an extra box you shoot 38-40 also yep i do he replied
    well to make a short story of this during the match he cam up to me and said you must have given me the wrong box these will not chamber in my gun
    check his gun yep he was shooting 38 but it had special behind it
    i tried to explain that 38-40 was not that common a caliber when he first asked but he was one of them experts so i let it ride to see the show
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    Quote Originally Posted by mart View Post
    Heard one of the gun shop blow hards telling his audience, "I only uses a 20 gauge to hunt birds cause it don't hurt the dogs like a 12 gauge does. "
    Huh!! This person should not be hunting. Maybe not even around guns.

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    Sometimes i get the ich to take my 50-70 Gov't rolling block out. the nearest outdoor range is a 100 yard public range and is usually populated with Ninjas and their black guns spraying at the 25 yard line, but anyways usually i hear comments such as "what kind of muzzle loader is that?" or "that old thing probably cant hit a bucket at 50 yards". when i flip open thd breech and stuff in a 50-70 cartridge they usually stare at me with a blank look, then when i start blowing clay pigeons apart at 100 yards they completely go quiet.

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    Stupid can't be fixed, but it is much easier tolerated when it is silenced......Mike

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    I wear amplified hearing protection, so I hear all the good scoop. Frequently this can keep a bad situation from becoming a disaster. Little things like "It won't quite close", or the "pop" of a squib in a .44 Magnum. These are the things that give me white hair. I have quite a collection of fire formed brass that was shot in the wrong chamber.

    Heard a fella tell his wife that the black rings around the holes in his target were burn marks, because .270 Winchester ammo is so fast the bullets get really hot. I bit my tongue, but with that reasoning the .220 Wilson Arrow should set the cardboard on fire!

    Latest hot scoop was heard right after the 5.56 Green Tip flap. I heard several guys talking about how they were shooting only .223, because 5.56 was too powerful. One even went so far as to claim that "Five-five-six holds twice as much powder as Two-two-three."

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    I get asked all kinds of things at the range. Generally I answer them and if they look confused I try and explain a few things to them. We were all once quite ignorant about guns and shooting. I want them interested in guns and willing to learn all they can. It's good for gun owners both politically and for range safety. Some may be a hopeless case but at least I tried. If they seem genuinely interested I ask them if they want to shoot whatever it is I'm shooting that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spector View Post
    Stupid can't be fixed, but it is much easier tolerated when it is silenced......Mike
    Duct tape can't fix stupid but it can muffle the sound it makes!

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    What a great ad for Gorilla Tape! "Gorilla Tape can fix anything but stupid...and even there it can muffle the sound it makes."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrol & Powder View Post
    I'm not too worried about stupid people it just bothers me that we let them vote and serve on juries.
    I spent several weeks on a Grand Jury and wholeheartedly agree. Each and every case my jury heard was given the green light for prosecution. I voted no often and occasionally another juror voted no with me. The prosecution only needs a majority to go forward. The prosecutors often chastised me saying things like "this is a Grand Jury not CSI", "why do you want to know" often telling cops not to answer my questions.

    One prosecutor suffering with short man's syndrome tossed his pen on the floor in a temper tantrum after I asked a cop how he knew what he claimed were "SKS machineguns" he saw through an apartment window were full auto by looking at them. The prosecutor ordered the cop not to answer. I followed up by asking if he could do a warrantless, no knock search if they were simply SKS or any other kind of rifles. The prosecutor pulled the case and brought it before another jury.

    The prosecutor with short man's syndrome tried to get me kicked off the jury claiming I misrepresented myself in the juror selection process. When asked if I was married, related to or living with a LEO, lawyer or anybody working in the courts. I responded "no". They never asked if I was formally married to a cop. The prosecutor also showed the judge the picture of my pick-up's bumper with a NRA bumper sticker taken from parking lot video. When I was asked if I had any bumper stickers on my car. Told them I had a worn AAA sticker and I later told the judge they didn't ask or say "truck". Judge over ruled him.

    A few days later I missed some sessions due to illness and the first thing shorty said to me "what are you doing here". He then went into a lecture about certain jurors slowing things down and we need to pick up the speed. I followed up by asking him if his lecture was on the record. He then told the recorder "come with me" and was gone for almost 30 minutes. I presume he went and spoke to the judge again.

    The other jurors simply believed everything they heard, voted me down every time I tried to exercise our right to call witnesses and the jury foreman often accused me of being a trouble maker on my no votes and what she claimed were irrelevant questions. Other than the one that voted no with me on just a few cases. All 10 of the others voted to indict on every case we heard. They sat like lumps on a log, never asking questions, never wanting to discuss anything and voting immediately.

    Nearly all jurors were govt employees with apx 50% working in public schools. One exception was a Philipino that barely spoke English, came to court after working a 10 hour graveyard shift and could not be excused because his work hours did not conflict. He slept through most everything and if he wasn't awake during the vote he was counted as an abstention. Another juror that never showed up until he was arrested and escorted in by Deputies voted "what ever". Judge finally excused him after he claimed mental stress caused him nightmares. He was replaced by an elderly school cafeteria worker.

    Sorry for the rant. I get hot under the collar every I recall it. The story about a Grand Jury indicting a ham sandwich is a stretch. They'd vote to indict a ham sandwich with no ham!!
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    Azredneck, you're one heckuva' dang good man, sir! Our courts and their officers have come to regard themselves as "royalty," seemingly thinking they're "entitled" to get their way WITHOUT doing their own due diligence. I DO understand how the time constraints make them WANT to short-change the system, BUT .... and this is a big "but!" .... doing so shows a neglect of their sworn duties, and short-changes the Constitution itself, both the state's and the national one. In the minds and hearts of way too many prosecutors, judges and police, "any ol' perp will do" seems to prevail MUCH more frequently than any of us would want or tend to realize. It's just plain UGLY, and you're to be commended for your simple common sense, knowledge and willingness to USE it. Thank you, sir!

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    What the hell are we talking about? Stevens 44-1/2? What in the hell is that?

    Color me a fool, ridicule me, kick me off of juries.

    I have learned a lot about a bunch of obsolete cartridges...never heard of that one. If my ignorance regarding this trivial minutae is grounds for me falling into the category of ignorant newbie, then i will gladly pass on your approval. Surely 5 minutes with google could impart wisdom beyond that of the average cartridge enthusiast, but why bother? Im never going to shoot this round. Plenty others to occupy my time

    I heard that you cant shoot lead boolits in an indoor range without poisoning the members. ****ers wouldnt even let me shoot my water dropped boolits. Now that is a shame, when they are letting all those primer gases circulate unrestricted

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    Quote Originally Posted by dilly View Post
    Was he talking about hearing?
    No, this wingnut was specifically referring to hitting the dogs with a charge of shot. I knew before I opened my mouth, this Einstein was not about to grasp reason or actual ballistics so I just smiled at the proprietor and made my exit. The shop owner was rolling his eyes and trying not to laugh in the guy's face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrCaveman View Post
    What the hell are we talking about? Stevens 44-1/2? What in the hell is that?

    Color me a fool, ridicule me, kick me off of juries.

    I have learned a lot about a bunch of obsolete cartridges...never heard of that one. If my ignorance regarding this trivial minutae is grounds for me falling into the category of ignorant newbie, then i will gladly pass on your approval. Surely 5 minutes with google could impart wisdom beyond that of the average cartridge enthusiast, but why bother? Im never going to shoot this round. Plenty others to occupy my time

    I heard that you cant shoot lead boolits in an indoor range without poisoning the members. ****ers wouldnt even let me shoot my water dropped boolits. Now that is a shame, when they are letting all those primer gases circulate unrestricted
    Not a cartridge but a model of a single shot rifle Stevens made. It was/is on of the more sought after of the old single shot actions. Wonderful action and hard to come by.
    Only left handed guns are interesting!

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