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Talking about leverguns. I know the Uberti offerings certainly cost more but is that premium indicative of better quality? What jistifies the price difference?
Personally I like the cimmarons a little better based on aesthetics but Ive never handled either.
Anyone care to share their experiences with eithers quality?
Cimarron's are made by Uberti. Cimarron's are the importer to the US. Some models do get a little extra care, so I've read, don't know how true it is, some are good, some have issues. the few I have were all good, so it was positive for me.
My Cimarron Open Tops are Uberti made. Better finish and quality according to Cimarron and general CAS shooters' comments back in the day. I don't know, they still had the short cylinder pin/need a washer fix that regular Ubertis had. I've put thousands of 44 Colt rounds through without a problem or breakage, but now they sit in the safe.
When I read "Cummaron" I immediately thought of this dude who used to brag about his Z28 "Cumarrow".
Taylor's are the best wood and case coloring/grade, then Cimmaron, then stoeger. All Uberti.
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So then, Uberti has different grades. Taylors, "CIMMARON", and then the specifically named Uberti lines.
I just seem to hear different folks profess one of those names being a little better built than the other. Of course I understand that any company can and will have issues now and then, some all the time and others not as much so just wondering why the price differences with Uberti and CIMMARON. I had not thought of Taylors so Ill look there too. Im just so tired of the AR game and want to add to my meager levergun collection. I love AR's and have many but one only needs so many and Im very happy with what I do have so Ill stop there.
Again, sorry for the title misspelling.
Thank you Mr moderator.
Uberti will build whatever the retailer wants. I had a Cimarron branded 1873 30 inch 45colt with a bogus barrel but I sent it to Texas and after a year’s wait I got it back with a new barrel.
I know little about Ialian gun myself, only what is posted here on CB; but a friend has one in 50-90, it is a good shooting rifle and accurate enough for any hunting opertunity while being a hoot to shoot. It may be from Cimmeron but not sure. I noticed the case hardening is just so-so but what the heck, it's a hunting rifle and affordable for many.
I bought a Uberti revolver from Cimarron back in 2020. It has Taylor's stamped on the barrel!
Dagnab it. I was in Fredericksburg yesterday and forgot to stop at Texas Jack's.
I knew what you meant, just thought it was funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill.68
Many cowboy (SASS) shooters have used the Uberti's in matches for years without problems including me. We have had action jobs to slick them up and make them faster.
JW
I bought a Taylors Uberti revolver back in 2021. Useless warranty, poor parts backup, too many excuses from Taylors. Looking at my firearm, its difficult to believe it came from an experienced manufacturer. Bad enough experience to ever purchase from them again.
If you are going to buy one, shoot it first before paying for it.
I always think there is no warranty that is worth having. If you need to use it, you are likely to hate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird
That being said I have had nothing but perfect luck buying firearms from every company other than Colt. I had a serious problem - actually several - with a brand new Colt product. They ended up refunding my money after several tries to make the gun right. All my Cimarron and Uberti products have been exemplary.
I’ve had issues with that Cimarron/Uberti 1873, a Thunder ranch .45 smith and a Colt detective spcl. But they were repaired with no drama.
I recently bought a 1894 Cimmaron, 26" barrel, case colored receiver. It shoots and works as slick as any pre 64 Winchester 94, which it is a piece for piece copy of. It has ran flawless with factory and handloads, jacketed or cast bullets, and a tack driver when it comes to accuracy. The only thing I had to do was change the front sight, with the rear elevator all the way down, it shot 2 feet high, so I put on a higher ft sight and it is 1" high at 25 yds, dead on at 100 yds, with the elevator all the way down. It has 8 steps and they are set to 50 yds per step, and I have shot it on steel out to 300 yds, and still have 2 notches left in the elevator. I can ring a 12" gong with ease at 300 yds.
Glad to hear of your good experience with the Cimmaron 94. I would love to have one in .38-55.
have a Cimaron 1894 in 38-55, well made rifle. I have no complaints.
My Uberti lever in .45 Colt loves a 265 gr fprn with either Win 231 or Unique. It will hold smaller than 1 inch 5 shot groups at 50 yards off sand bags. When I do my job, it drops deer in their tracks. I have no complaints about that rifle.
All 3 of these brands, though they may be the same thing, seem to be commonly used. I guess theyre like most other things, some have great luck others dont. I myself own a single henry that had to go back 3 times, so nobody is perfect.
I appreciate all of the testimonies.
My Henry Long Barrel Frontier just returned from its fourth trip to Henry for warranty repairs. While it was in for back to back repairs( yes they sent it back unrepaired/I shipped it back the next day) I spent a large sum of money for an unfired 1970s Marlin 39A with a 24" barrel. The Henry , if it works well enough will be my emergency backup rifle for metallic silhouette.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill.68
Wow! I was ready to send it down the road after the secind, cant imagine 4 trips home. Fortunately for me (?) or them or the gun, maybe all three, I finally found a load that that brand new barrel Henry put on it loves and is a literal laser, 19.5gr of A9 and a 240gr JSP from Roze Distributing is a "cant miss" proposition, its freaky really. So, Ill keep it I guess.
Sadly though, its just about the only load Ive found that it will shoot and to my mind I just dont think a rifle should be limited to one single load. Im really not exaggerating either, thats the only load it likes, and Im running low on A9 naturally.
So, Im exploring options on a brand other than the mainstream brands.
That sux, I hope they got it right this time. Pretty much any gun and gunmaker is a roll of the dice. I love my JM Marlins but there is no warranty or factory service whatsoever for them. I bought all mine when they were cheap, but I would hate to spend serious coin on one today and then discover I had to spend even more on parts/repairs. Far as Winchesters go, I think the Italian clones might be a safer bet given that the new Winchesters cost more and have a legacy of light strike problems that the factory won't fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVIDMAGNUM
I buy original Marlins and Winchesters with perfect bores in 38 55. I never have any trouble with them. If you keep your eyes open you can find them at the same price as the new junk.
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I bought a Cimarron Indian Territory. Same thing, it shot uselessly above the sights and no recourse, the front sight was part of the barrel band and the fixed part of the ladder sight was as down as it goes. Shipped off to Cimarron after talking to them. Got it back rather quick with a test target of 3/4”, 1”, and 1” groups. Obviously shot at 10 yards. Gun was still off the paper at 50 yards, oh and they shipped it with no packing and it came back with the barrel band twisted around and the mag tube rotated out from under the barrel. My FFL recommended using the Davidson’s (wholesaler) 100% satisfaction guarantee so I did. I will buy a Winchester when one comes available.
I have 3 Uberti toggle link rifles from 2 different importers, from a 1986 '73 Sporting Rifle, a 2008 1860 and a 2014 '73 Short Rifle... Other than some smoothing of parts, lightened springs and clearancing the carrier for use in cowboy action, all worked as designed out of the box. But, they say anything can be built poorly while nursing a hangover on Monday!